Episode 5

November 13, 2025

00:58:14

THE AWAKENED LIFESTYLE

Hosted by

Lola Singer Amaral Valle
THE AWAKENED LIFESTYLE
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THE AWAKENED LIFESTYLE

Nov 13 2025 | 00:58:14

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What does life look like once you’ve truly awakened? In this heart-centered episode, Lola and Amil pull back the curtain on what it means to live each day through the lens of higher awareness — where old patterns fall away, and authentic alignment becomes your new normal.

Together, they explore how awakening shifts everything: relationships, purpose, emotions, even how you view challenge and change. Through laughter and honesty, they reflect on their own journeys from resistance to acceptance, judgment to compassion, and “me versus you” to we are one.

This isn’t about perfection. It’s about progress — choosing presence over autopilot, truth over comfort, and soul over status. If you’ve been wondering what “living awake” really feels like, this conversation is your gentle reminder: you’re already on your way.

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[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to Woowooville, the next stop on your spiritual journey, hosted by two fellow travelers who found a soul connection on the path to higher consciousness. Our goal is to help you navigate the choppy waters you're likely to encounter on the spiritual path by sharing our experiences with you each week. Join us as we spill the tea on what it is like to wake up to your authentic self. Self. Hello, I am Lola Singer and I have a special announcement because this is season two of welcome to Woo Woo Ville. Yes, we have done this for a full year now. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Yes, we have. And my name is Amil and we are excited to provide for you a whole new season with new information. I'm just really excited. I feel like it's a new beginning and I feel like I'm going through a new beginning and I'm pretty sure that Lola feels probably the same. So we're excited to just bring to you a whole new season and we're going to start the season with having. When we started this podcast, it's always been catered to people that are starting their spiritual awakening. And so our first episode was called you hear that you've, you've heard the call now what? So it was an intro of like, you're starting to hear, like what starts happening to hear the awakening call. So we decided what better way than to have our first episode be more like, what's it like once you're spiritually awakened. So our title for our episode is going to be the Awakened Lifestyle. [00:01:53] Speaker A: Yes, because it's something that becomes part of your life. It's second nature as you start to embody more and more of the energy that elevates you and helps you along the spiritual path. So we thought it might be fun as a little reminder. And I think most of the people listening are spiritually awake. So it'll be fun for you to see how far you've come probably by listening to what we're going to be addressing today. I came from being a complete agnostic, no, no concept of spirituality. Just rejecting the dogma I grew up with, you know, in the church. So I didn't know anything else. So I became very anti spiritual, basically. So this was a big shift for me in my lifetime to realize there's got to be more to life than you live, you go to work and you die. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Exactly. Well, and I came from a very programmed religious program lifestyle with religious programming, Catholic to be exact. And it was ingrained in me. So it's, it's so interesting because I always think, like I always Think out loud. What would be harder to develop a connection to when you feel like there's nothing there or to break off from a connection that doesn't really resonate with you? [00:03:31] Speaker A: And I guess both of those are things that are part of the unawakened lifestyle. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:03:37] Speaker A: Some people will recognize from their pasts. So we're not trying to cast any dispersions on anyone because we're all at different levels of awakening. I'm a work in progress. Amaral is a work in progress. [00:03:49] Speaker B: Yep. [00:03:51] Speaker A: There's no finish line because we're spiritual energy that never dies. So, you know, if you don't get to a certain part of the spiritual journey in this lifetime, you will in the next. So there's no casting dispersions on anybody here. But it is kind of funny in retrospect when you've moved forward to see who you used to be. [00:04:14] Speaker B: Exactly. And, you know, I think that the best way that shows us who we used to be is like, pictures of us that remind us of memories from the past. [00:04:25] Speaker A: Pictures. [00:04:27] Speaker B: Things like videos, movies, music, even music is a big one. [00:04:32] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Because some of it was so toxic that we were listening to. [00:04:36] Speaker B: I remember listening to songs that I'm like, was I, like, borderline suicidal? This song is so depressing. But during the time being, it served its purpose because it was getting my. My emotions out. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure it was a bridge to something else. [00:04:53] Speaker B: Exactly. So we're going to start with something that I found that says living spiritual awakened life differs from an unawakened one primarily through a fundamental shift in perception and identity. Moving from an ego driven, conditional state to one rooted in expanded awareness and unconditional acceptance. [00:05:18] Speaker A: One of the things I was going to say before you dive into this is that your changes may have been so gradual, you didn't even notice that this happened, because all of a sudden you're you. You care more about other people, you're more aware of. You've got more empathy, you can see another person's point of view, and you start to care about humanity as a whole because you're starting to realize, oh, okay. It isn't the separation. It's not me versus you. You. You are me. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Yep. But see, the thing is, it's. And it's. Everything's so gradual. Because I remember the first thing that really had to be that I had to address within me. It's a lot of, like, judgment. And I. I realized how much judgment was within me because we built these titles and we built these Titles to make us feel better, I guess, or just to always, like, point out differences between people. But a lot of our judgments are very harsh, especially when it comes to, like, from. For me, at least from religious programming, the judgment was very much always on. And there was a huge judgment of like, oh, you're a sinner. You're this, or you're not gonna get to experience heaven because you're this and that. And I was like, I don't really know if I really want to be in your heaven by that judgment that you're throwing to me. But at the same time, it works both ways because I'm not victimizing myself due to that. There was a lot of judgment within me that I had to also address. So you what? The reason why I'm bringing that even up is, in the very beginning, all of our darker emotions, they kind of surface up, and we have to address them to see where we're at with them. Because you can't complain about something and then turn around and do it to someone else, because that is not okay. [00:07:08] Speaker A: But we see people do that all the time. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So when you're not awakened, you. You're seeking validation from outside of yourself. So, you know, that's why I always thought this was the most stupid thing, like getting a promotion. And there's, like, no extra money. It's just a title. But some people are definitely motivated by that. That's a very good example of what we mean by the external validation. And then also achievements, you know? You know, when I've always looked at the world a little differently, like, I just thought it was ridiculous for me to get a diploma just because I graduated from high school. To me, that wasn't that big an achievement. You know, I thought, well, what? There's like, hundreds of other people doing that on this, you know, from the. From the same class, you know, big deal. [00:07:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:00] Speaker A: So I was never one that was that much into getting validation that way, but I know some people just love their certificates. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? [00:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:09] Speaker B: Well, and it's a. It's an ingrained thing because, for example, your. Your parents will push you the whole entire time and saying, like, oh, no, you need to graduate. You need to graduate. You need to make us proud. So as soon as you start mixing those emotions of, like, you need to make us proud, then you're like, oh, I'm going to put you to shame if I don't graduate. [00:08:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. It's inferred, isn't it? [00:08:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And then also roles, you know, like, I'M so important because, you know, I'm just going to say it the first thing that popped in my head because. Because. Because I am a religious leader. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Or I'm so important because I'm the manager. Or I'm so important because I think I am. You know, it's. It's not about being important. It's about being authentic when you are on the spiritual path. [00:09:03] Speaker B: Exactly. You know, right off hand when you said that title and stuff. It's so interesting because when I was growing up, I was very young. In a very young age, I started. Oh, I started realizing that I had other skills. Like, for example, I had a lot of leadership skills. So then I started working at this like, small restaurant. I became a manager. And when I told my mom that I was gonna quit being a manager because I thought that there was greatest better calls for me than just managing a restaurant, she flipped and she goes, why would you quit now? Like you're a manager already. Like you're. You're fine. You don't need to quit being a manager. [00:09:44] Speaker A: That is so funny because, I mean, I can picture that happening. But you know what? I always thought about managers because I never wanted to be one. I always thought it was indentured servitude because they don't get paid properly and they work twice as much as the employees. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And you're always on call if anybody calls out. [00:10:05] Speaker A: Yes. It's craziness. Yeah, that's a good point. You know. Yeah. Being a manager, if you're getting external validation from that, well, okay. You're working twice as hard for not as much, a whole lot more money. Okie dokie. I've always looked at world a little differently than other people. [00:10:24] Speaker B: Yep. So let's start with our topic. [00:10:27] Speaker A: I thought we had. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Well, we have. I mean, we use some examples of certain validations that don't really. But let's dive a little deeper into. So the differences in perception and mindset. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Between awakened and not yet awakened. [00:10:42] Speaker B: So let's start with the sense of self. From an awakened life. The ego no longer dominates. Instead, a person identifies with their true essence of soul, recognizing that the story of me is not their entire identity. There is a felt sense of oneness and interconnection with all things, which erodes feeling of separation. Feelings of separation. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah, because you realize you're all a spark of source. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:11:13] Speaker A: And that includes your animal, pets. That includes, you know, the insects pollinating, the flowers. It's everything. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Exactly. And then an. On an unawakened life, a Person is firmly identified with their ego, personality, thoughts, and personal history. They perceive themselves as a separate individual living in a world of disconnected people and things. [00:11:40] Speaker A: That's probably the major part of the topic, isn't it? [00:11:43] Speaker B: Yep. [00:11:44] Speaker A: Feeling that separation. [00:11:45] Speaker B: But there was other things that you had added to on your search that I really like on that. [00:11:52] Speaker A: Yes. So I. I dug into what are some of the awake versus not yet awake concepts. And in my search, I think this is absolutely so interesting, which is the relationship to suffering. So a not yet awakened person feels victimized by pain and resists change. An awake person sees suffering as a teacher, a catalyst for growth, and even a signal for deeper alignment. I definitely was in the not awake, victimization, resist change category for probably the most of my life. [00:12:33] Speaker B: Yep. [00:12:33] Speaker A: I really, I mean, of course, I had a psychology degree, so I blamed my parents for everything. [00:12:40] Speaker B: The blame. You just said a kin word to his blame. Like, when we're unawakened, we're blaming everything. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Oh, it's never my fault that I'm having problems. It couldn't be me. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Yep. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:52] Speaker B: And that's the one. [00:12:53] Speaker A: So it's not only external validations, external accusation. [00:12:57] Speaker B: Yes. And, you know, the other thing too is, like, which we realize how much. Well, at least I can speak for myself and Lola can speak because we do. We do relate as far as that goes. But we had like, someone in our lives that was a martyr our entire life. So when you have that kind of approach of a person as a model. [00:13:21] Speaker A: Role model. [00:13:21] Speaker B: As a role model. And really just, you're like, man, there's got to be more to life than this. Because you're just asking, like, really, like, this is what I supposed to look forward to. But it's all part of the shedding away of who we truly are as opposed to who we're not. And it's not in any, like, it's not pointing a finger, it's not blaming. It's not trying to shame anyone. It's just, I think that the biggest thing about an awakened life is being able for you to see and make the decisions that you want to make based on what truly aligns with you, rather than living a life that has been programmed and has been told that you're supposed to live, even if you never quite fit in or were happy with it. [00:14:08] Speaker A: Yeah. But you don't know what you're aligned with. [00:14:11] Speaker B: That's true. [00:14:12] Speaker A: You know, you're trying to, even if you didn't like what's considered the, you know, most people's daily routine Which I didn't. You know, I've always been like, outsider, more of an artist look, looking at the world differently. Like this doesn't. I always knew. It never seemed right. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Yes. [00:14:29] Speaker A: It doesn't seem right for me to get up every morning and go to a job I don't like and get on the bus and they don't pay me the bus fare and they don't, you know, and all that, you know, all these things and then go to go to work and, you know, come home and get ready to go to bed so you can go to work the next day. Never felt quite right. And, you know, I remember one day waking up and going, I don't like the idea that every day I wake up I'm a deficit because we have to pay for, you know, our food and we have to pay for our rent and we have to pay the taxes and we have to pay. Everything's that. I woke up one morning, went, I'm just a walking deficit. And I don't like that. But I didn't have a solution because I wasn't spiritual. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:18] Speaker A: So I spent many years just going to work realizing I'm a walking deficit even though I'm working. Yeah, you know, it's. It's really quite a paradox. But that's. That's another thing I read about as far as waking versus unawakened, that you start to appreciate paradox and learn to kind of live with it and laugh with it instead of pushing against it. [00:15:40] Speaker B: So then it brings us to our next thing is experience of emotions. In awakened life, emotions are felt and processed without attachment, leading to us. Since cessation of chronic suffering, emotional fractuations no longer create internal turmoil because there is an underlying sense of calm and peace. On an unawakened life, emotions are often the source of chronic suffering, anxiety and fear. A person gets caught in cycles of worry and regret and unable to find lasting peace. [00:16:23] Speaker A: I'm going to kind of temper that a little bit because I think even on the spiritual path, you have moments of worry and suffer, you know, temporary suffering, you know, but it's a meter for you. It's. It's like a gauge on a car. It's like a little alert sign, you know, it's like, oh, oh, oh. I recognize this from before. I've dealt with this before. I can. I can. I can work with this as long as I can keep as centered as possible. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Yep. And I think that's what it is. It's almost like gathering the tools where. Okay, you don't feel good by this happening, so what can you do about it? Well, before it was like, I just have to suffer. Yeah. [00:17:02] Speaker A: Because you sit there and go, well, it's always been this way, so it's never going to get better. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. [00:17:08] Speaker A: And, and, and especially if you add the blaming other people for your problems, you know, it's like you're never going to find a solution, ever going to change because there's always, well, if it wasn't mom, well, it's got to be, you know, my college roommate that I. That's when everything went south. You know, there's always somebody to blame when you're not awake, you know. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Which brings us to our next thing that actually aligns with what you're saying is response to challenges, an awakened lifestyle. Life's challenges are viewed as opportunities for growth rather than problems to be solved or resisted. The individual surrenders control and trust that life's events, even painful ones, serve a higher purpose. In an unawakened person, challenges are met with resistance and victimhood. A person may feel that life is happening to them, leading, leading to feeling the feelings of power, powerlessness and struggle. So, and that one, it's really interesting because you see things differently. Like, you don't see. I mean, but Lola, I get your point. What you were saying, as far as. We're not trying to say that like life becomes perfect or you see things in perfection. Yes, you do go through emotions. Yes, you, there's challenges that you, obviously everyone goes through. But I think the difference is when you're spiritually awakening, you see them. Is that like little keys for seeing where you're at? If there is work to be done, you can go further into it instead of having to just complain or get. [00:18:53] Speaker A: Mired down in it. [00:18:54] Speaker B: Blame someone for it. [00:18:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that is a big difference. And there's a lot of shadow work and self acknowledgment and looking at why am I reacting to this in such a strong way that the spiritual awake person does instead of just going, well, I've been handed a sandwich, you know, and there's nothing I can do about it or I'm going to blame everybody else for it but me. [00:19:31] Speaker B: So, yeah. [00:19:37] Speaker A: I do see that in my personal life. I've really gotten a lot better at at navigating my emotions and recognizing them for what they are. It's just like, like we talked about a little, a little beacon. A little beacon saying, hey, hey, notice me, because this isn't quite in alignment. So how do we get back in alignment? [00:19:57] Speaker B: Yep. Which is there's another thing that's on this that says perception of reality. In awakened person, reality is perceived as having deeper dimension dimensions beyond the physical world. Everyday life feels richer and more profound, filled with synchronicities in a sense of underlying order. In an awakened person realities perceived solely through the logical mind. In the physical senses, this can lead to a feeling of meaningless or being stuck on autopilot, which I remember those days of being unawakened. And it's really frustrating because it seems like there's a system that's work, not working with you, it's working against you. And then you supposed to submit to it, and you're supposed to be okay with it, which is what you exactly just said. I remember when thinking that I needed to go to a job because I think that the differences between like a job and something you love is that you feel like you're obligated to. So then you don't want to do it. And you wake up with like all this, like bad mood of like, I'm just gonna go to this place that I cannot stand to like. But once you start shifting out and start working on yourself, it's what I found is that in the one thing that I could share with people is that things start. Once things. Things start shifting within you, your world starts shifting because you're putting on a new frequency. So that frequency is no longer going to be tolerable of the things that we're going like the older nonsense and stuff. So usually what ends up happening is either A, you switch jobs, B, you switch departments, or you switch locations on where you're doing your job, where your job becomes way more fulfilling for you, or you just flat out drop what you're doing and you start changing it for something else that you actually enjoy. And it is hard, it's not easy to do, but once you do has such a. It makes such a huge shift in your life. I can go back and I can tell you that I've worked fast food and everybody knows that fast food is not an enjoyable part because it's so crazy and madness. But at the same time, I also remember enjoyable times where I was with my friends and we were just laughing and people were throwing fits and having all these issues. And we just kept laughing because we were teenagers. We wanted to live life. We just didn't really care. It was crazy. [00:22:46] Speaker A: I want to go back to the spiritually awake people on this because you talked about something really important, which is that feeling of connection to the hall that we Kind of started the podcast. Podcast with. Because you know when, when you're not spiritually awake, you don't even know you have a crown chakra. [00:23:04] Speaker B: That's true. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Everything's earthy. So you know you're working from the root and the sacral and maybe some solar. [00:23:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:13] Speaker A: But then as you work with yourself and do the shadow work and the forgiveness and raising your vibes, you become more heart centered. So then that channel opens up and the crown, you start getting, you can tell you're getting downloads. You get that tingles on your crown chakra. You realize you're getting information. You actually feel that connection. As above, so below. Some people still have a little bit of a challenge with the throat chakra. I think that's one of the hardest ones for people to work with. But, but, but you're consciously aware that I'm, I'm rooted to the ground, but I'm getting information from above. I feel it in my head. [00:23:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:53] Speaker A: So you, you know, if you're feeling it in your body, it's like, wow, that's amazing. You know, look, look at this. You know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling so connected to so much that I didn't even. What No I could be aware of before. So I think that's really important. And I think one of the first signs you're waking up is that feeling. [00:24:18] Speaker B: Yep. I still remember up to this day that when I first started, because you would get so many downloads and stuff and I would be sleeping and all of a sudden the best way to describe it is this f. As if I got shocked by lightning while sleeping. So all of a sudden I would do sudden jumps and it would scare the living out of my husband. And when it first started happening, he would always check on me to make sure I was okay. And then it just went like, okay. That's just what he normally does. And then it just stopped one day. And no longer because I think we expand so we're allowed. [00:24:53] Speaker A: Our body starts to calibrate too. [00:24:55] Speaker B: Exactly. So it's no longer that shock that we get. But man, when we stir out, when we first start, it's. It's kind of shocking. It's shocking to us, but then we get used to it. But it's very, very shocking to our significant others or husband, like husband, boyfriend, whatever. [00:25:10] Speaker A: Would you say if they're not awake, they really don't or don't know that this is part of a spiritual growth process. They're going to think you need to go to the hospital because you have epilepsy. [00:25:20] Speaker B: Exactly. Or that something's wrong with you. That's the first thing he thought that it was literally something wrong with me. So he freaked out. Next is our focus of attention on an awakened individual. The focus is on the present moment. Rather than being pulled into thoughts of the past or worries about the future, there is a deep conscious presence in daily activities. In an unawakened person, the mind constantly, it's constantly active and distracted by thoughts, memories and future plans. Living in the present moment is a struggle and much of life is lived in a daydream state. [00:26:06] Speaker A: It's making me think of something that my tarot teacher said, which said the only thing real is the now. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Well, only from the present can you heal your past and plant seeds for your future. That's the one thing I always got. [00:26:22] Speaker A: When I was, you know, you know, the past is regret, the future is worry. So you want to be present, you want to be in the now. When I was first doing my spiritual journey, I wrote that down. I was in my cubicle at work about the past and the present. And in my search about awakened versus unwaken, they're calling that the relationship to time. So it says that if you're not awake and you're lost in past regrets or future worries, like I just said, and if you're awake, you're anchored in the now. And not only that, you're honoring cycles including the moon, the seasons, and even your breath. So you're, you're, you're not rushing against them, you're working, working with them. And I think that's why I never understood the term, you know, like, this too shall pass. You know, that's what they're talking about here. This too shall pass. It'll be fine. Don't get stuck in the worrying. Just move forward. And that is a big difference between awakened and not awakened. [00:27:27] Speaker B: Yep, it's a huge difference. One thing that I did really, really like ring a bell and it was my self defense mechanism was when I was unawakened, I used to daydream all the time. And my parents would get so annoyed with me. My mom would be like, get back to Earth. Like you're just like. Because I had such a vivid imagination that she would always be like, ah, you're always like imagining things. You're always like just in your imaginative little world, like get back to earth. But the truth is you wanted to escape reality because it was so crazy. But now I understand it a lot more. And you know, when you're unawakened. You are your worst enemy. Because anything you do, you always, like, are like a drill sergeant on yourself. And you're like, like mad at yourself. You're, like, annoyed about something. You're blaming yourself for something. And once you start awakening, you really start to realize and see yourself with a different light, with a most more compassionate light, with a more understanding that no one is perfect. Perfect. And then even if you make mistakes or something happens, like, who cares? You can always do it differently or do things differently. [00:28:44] Speaker A: You know, when you said the word perfect, I had a thought it was. And it's about the awakened person. Right? I mean, the awakened person knows. No, no, nothing's perfect. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Exactly Right. [00:28:55] Speaker A: But the awakened person can understand and empathize with the person who's thinks there's. They have to move toward perfection. [00:29:04] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's kind of like you got to walk the walk and talk the talk. [00:29:17] Speaker B: Yes. [00:29:18] Speaker A: And so you have to go through these initiations of things being kind of maybe not coming up with the best solutions so that you can learn from them and then ultimately be able to help other people in similar situations. So it is. It's all just like this little cosmic web that keeps weaving us all together, doesn't it? [00:29:41] Speaker B: So one thing that I can really relate to as far as that goes, is when I first started my spiritual awakening, I would find these memes that had such a, like, powerful words and powerful things. And I remember I would post them, but I'm like, that whole, like, talk, the walk. Walk, the talk was so interesting because not until now, I realized the power that had. Because before I was seeing that as a potential, and I was seeing that is like, that's what I'm striving to go to. That's what I'm striving to be. Where I'm striving to be. And now it's like, when you become really close to, like, what is authentic to me, and I have to follow my heart and I have to do the things that resonate, you start to walk the walk. And that's what people don't realize. But everything is a process. And if you don't aim for like, like, I'm not saying by any means, stop yourself from putting those memes. Like, put them. Because they're inspiring. They're inspiring. They're helping you to see another side. Sometimes the hardest thing we do on our spiritual awakening is move to that side where you're going to find that peace. So whatever it takes at first, go for it. Use it well. [00:30:49] Speaker A: And. And once again, you. You just find yourself there. I mean, yes, you're doing work in the meantime, like looking at yourself in the shadow work, for example. But all of a sudden it's like, oh, I understand that now. I'm embodying it now. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah. So, but if someone tells you, like, right when you start your spiritual awakening, embody this, you're going to be like, what does that even mean? [00:31:13] Speaker A: I've never heard of that. Yes. [00:31:17] Speaker B: So our next thing is the differences in behavior and lifestyle between an awakened and unawakened life. So first is relationships. [00:31:30] Speaker A: So you mean, you know, the. The toxic relationships of the past. [00:31:37] Speaker B: Well, let's go with that description first, and then we'll talk about everything else. So on relationships and awakened life, the desire for genuine connections replaces the need for approval. The individual releases toxic relationships and practices unconditional compassion and empathy for others, even those who cause harm. In an unawakened life, relationships are often based on codependency, judgment, and competition. A person may stay in unhealthy relationships out of fear of being alone. [00:32:13] Speaker A: See, a spiritually awake person is totally happy to be by themselves because we've learned how to go within and we've learned to like ourselves. Even. I love. I love being alone a lot of the time. I love it. But I understand that feeling of I'm doing something wrong if I'm not going out with friends or, you know, in the. In the past, like, even just, like, the idea of, like, eating in a restaurant alone. [00:32:46] Speaker B: I love eating in a restaurant alone. [00:32:48] Speaker A: But I found that difficult at first. [00:32:51] Speaker B: It is. So this is something that Lola can attest. I totally just share that with her. As soon as, like, we were, like, started talking about the time conflicts and stuff, I said, yes, I am married, and yes, I am with someone. And I mean, everyone that's married can tell you that marriage is not a walk in the park. There's constant work to be done. But if I wasn't married, there's no way in hell I would be with someone because I understand myself and I don't think there's. I mean, there's. Maybe there is someone out there, but I really could. Like, I'm not interested. [00:33:23] Speaker A: But that's not what's validating you anymore. [00:33:26] Speaker B: You know, like, I am excited to go grow in life, to experience new things. And whoever's adding to that, great, come to the club, like, you're welcome and stuff, but whoever's minimizing that from me, I was like, nope, you gotta go. [00:33:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Because there's a point where you only want to be around people who are authentic. [00:33:44] Speaker B: Yep. [00:33:44] Speaker A: And who. Who appreciate your authenticity as well. [00:33:48] Speaker B: And your relationships change so much from point. Point of. When you're. When you start to awaken to, like, an unawakened person. Because one of the things you seek in relationships is validation. And when you seek validation, you run across a lot of toxic people that you have on your circle. And you didn't even realize how toxic they were until you start awakening and start really seeing what toxicity looks like. And you're like, okay, I love you. And because I love you, I respect your journey and you're going on your way. And I am going on my way. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Because you don't want to engage in certain behaviors anymore. [00:34:27] Speaker B: Yep. And it's hard. It's not easy to do at all. But the thing is, spirit will make it so uncomfortable for you that you have to let go. And that's where people like. That's one of the things that I wish people would have told me from the very beginning, because I thought everything just works itself. [00:34:46] Speaker A: It's all gonna be love and light. [00:34:47] Speaker B: Yeah. It's always going to be loving light. But. Well, the thing is, if you're focusing on your healing, it's going to be tough and stuff, and you're going to see shadow aspects of you that you may not like, but. [00:34:56] Speaker A: But being reflected in your spouse. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Yep. [00:34:58] Speaker A: Because that's why you choose your spouse. [00:35:00] Speaker B: Exactly. But the biggest thing is you're going to be shown first what choices you should be making, and then the pressure cooker begins. Because as soon as soon as you start working in your authenticity and who you truly are, if you're not following that, that pressure cooker is going to be amped up, and things are not going to be very great because you're refusing to let go of what no longer connects and aligns with you. [00:35:31] Speaker A: Yes. But let's. Let's flip this, too. So as you become more authentic, you find more authentic people in your circle. You're not necessarily looking for Or a loved one or a new spouse, but what you're. Or. But you may encounter that merely because, like, of the law of attraction. [00:35:51] Speaker B: Yep. [00:35:51] Speaker A: So I want to put a positive. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Spin on this, too, and I'll. And I'll definitely switch it into a positive thing. So this last Saturday, I attended this worldwide celebration. It's called Global Gong Panja, and it's celebrated in different parts of the world. And it's eight hours of gong playing while you sleep. So we decided to sleep outside. And everybody that lives in the Northwest realized that it was a monsoon. On Saturday night, it rained so much, which it's a great synchronicity because think of water. Water is a purifier. So obviously you're releasing so much that was purifying you. But we had a tent, and the tent didn't have walls at first, so the water was coming in and stuff. And it made these. There was nine of us total, and these nine strangers. I mean, I only knew the people that were hosting it and somebody else, but all these nine strangers started coming together closer because obviously the rain was raining upon us. But we were. We were. We have never met, yet. We met for the same reasons. We understood each other, where we were from, and we understood that each one of us was there to heal something. And we connected in such a human perspective that that brought us closer. And the next day, when we woke up and we were closing up our ceremony and stuff, it felt like they were almost family because we had that connection, that human connection. So that's what Lola's talking about, is that people. Even though. Yes. You're shedding people away. And our human nature is so, oh, if I had you this long in my life, I can't lose you. But when you get stuck to those. You're giving a pass to all these toxic people that don't really belong or shouldn't be in your life, but when you lose them, you. At first you feel like, oh, it's so hard. But they get replaced for these amazing people that you're just mind blown by how much. Like, more you're getting out of a complete stranger per se, than like, you get out of people that you know in your entire life. It's crazy. [00:37:59] Speaker A: And it's natural. [00:38:00] Speaker B: Mm. [00:38:01] Speaker A: It's natural to drift away from some people that. You said something about being possessive, and I think that's really interesting because one of the things on my list is the relation that the relationship to the material world. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Mm. [00:38:14] Speaker A: If you're not yet awakened, you seek fulfillment in possessions, status or productivity. Possessions. Oh, my gosh. The first thing I can think of is Instagram. Look at my big house. Look at my wardrobe. Look. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Sorry. I've never liked Instagram. I've. I just can't jive with it. And I guess it's because it doesn't feel authentic to me. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. [00:38:42] Speaker A: It feels very poser. [00:38:43] Speaker B: Yep. [00:38:44] Speaker A: But yes. And goodness knows, I collect and collect and collect, and I'm guilty of having more crystals in this cabin than anybody should. So I've always been that way, getting, getting my like when I'm stressed, you know, oh, if I go buy something new, I'll feel better not. But not looking inward. So now I use these crystals as tools. I can at least say that. But yeah, I had too many clothes, too many shoes, too many. I mean everything, everything. But I was never like the traditional status oriented. I never wanted a big house and fancy cars. But I, I'm an accumulator. So I know, I know this trap. Yeah, I've been there. I still do it mildly. Yes. [00:39:30] Speaker B: Yep. Which is funny because the next thing that aligns with it is the daily habits. So the daily habits of an awakened person is there's an increased desire for inner stillness and peace, often leading to habits like meditation, spending time in nature in intentional solitude, material desires and self serving habits naturally fall away. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Yes, but can you imagine 20 years ago you doing any of the things you mentioned at first? [00:40:04] Speaker B: Yeah. No. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Not even one on the list, right? Me either. [00:40:11] Speaker B: Yeah. In an unawakened person, a person is driven by unconscious habits and desires, often pursuing external validation through material possessions, comfort and entertainment. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Comfort and entertainment are big traps. Still, they are on purpose. [00:40:30] Speaker B: And see, this is one thing that I do have to admit that so far I've realized is that when there's going to be people because we're all going to run into them and you're going to run into them and you're going to realize this too. There's some people that are so comfortable with the things from 3D that they're not ever going to strive to move past that. And that's because this lifetime isn't intended for them to wake up. And there is those people like that. And you know, the thing is, just as you had your free will to start your journey of awakening, they also have a free will of staying. And when I have like been so frustrated and asked Spirit, like spirit, why, why does this person not budge at all when I know it's going to be so much better and they have so much potential and everything. And Spirit told me something that was like really profound. Spirit said just like you see them of not moving in this lifetime, you had many lifetimes where you decided not to move a finger towards your spirit, spirituality or your awakening. So part of this whole the earth is a school and people get choices and some people will be comfortable in the that 3D world and they're not going to budge because their comfort is what they seek. Also Their comfort comes from outside. Comes from outside. And it's a validation thing. So you can't, like, you just have to allow them to have their own journey if they. They're choosing to stay. That doesn't mean that you get that you are choosing to stay. It just means that you just respect their free will just like they should be respecting yours. [00:42:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's kind of like my family. You know, they're. They're. They're very happy in their little bubbles, and that's okay. They don't want to know what I do. They don't like. It's like, remember in the 90s when they said don't, don't ask, don't tell? [00:42:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:28] Speaker A: That's how it is with my family. Don't ask, don't tell. We don't want to know what Lola does. [00:42:32] Speaker B: Yep. [00:42:33] Speaker A: Okay. [00:42:34] Speaker B: And then our next thing is big is purpose. So on an awakened person, a person feels a natural pull. So where's authentic pull? Purpose, which often involves being of service to others. There's a deep sense of meaning and fulfillment that transcends career, career, success. I got the career that supposedly I, like, loved, and I did love it at first and everything. And now I'm going through a whole crossroads of it's no longer aligning with me. I'm grateful for the years. I'm grateful for the experience. Experience. I loved my clients. I love the creativity that I got to experience. But that's where it gets really tough and tricky is, like, when we get something negative that we know is not good for us, we have, like, absolutely no problem in just dropping and just saying, like, you know, it's not aligned with me. Let it go. But what about when it's something so good that has served you for so long, and all of a sudden you wake up one day and your passion isn't there? That's what's hard to do. What if you have that job that brings you all these benefits? What if you have that 401k that has, like, that. You're like, oh, this is so great. And the next thing you know, each day you attend that job, just. It's no longer you. So it becomes more difficult and more difficult. So that's part of, like, me shifting out now, and it's really hard. And I'm doing it because I have to allow myself to grow. I can't just give up on myself, and this is something that no one else can do for me. I have to know what really, truly aligns with me and what doesn't. And when I doesn't, I just let it go. [00:44:20] Speaker A: Yes. And it is a struggle for most people, complete struggle. [00:44:28] Speaker B: And for purpose. An unawakened person is a person. A person may feel a persistent sense of purposelessness, purposelessness or incompleteness even after achieving external success. The career path may be driven by ego rather than purpose. And I'm sure that you have said yourself of how many times have you heard someone say, I've dedicated all these years to this career, and now that I have the day degree and now I started in this career and I realized this isn't me. This isn't what I really thought I'd love. And that's why. [00:45:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's why Dennis become farmers. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Well. And that's why spirituality is so tricky, because how you see yourself right now at this moment is not who you're going to be for the rest of your life. And even things that you were passionate about once upon a time, when you're going to end up outgrowing them. And it's not that you're not grateful for those experiences, but you're. Later, you're ready to move on. And that can be hard for some people to do. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Yes, I think it's hard for most people to do. [00:45:44] Speaker B: For all people to do. [00:45:45] Speaker A: Even if you don't like your job, it's still hard to give up that security and comfort that we talked about earlier. [00:45:49] Speaker B: Yep. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. So one of the things that you haven't addressed that's on my list that I like is the relationship to mystery. On the web search I did, I found that it says that the not yet Awakened cling to dogma, certainty or disbelief. And the Awakened ones embrace paradox, which we kind of talked about earlier, synchronicity and mystery as a natural expression of Source. So, yes, we'll never have all the answers because Source doesn't have all the answers, because that's what Source is doing, experiencing through us to get all the answers it can fight. The experience of Source through you is just as valid as the experience Source is feeling through the mosquito or. Or through something from a different planet. It's learning and expanding and growing. So, of course, mystery is going to be a natural part of Source. And we're part of this great mystery of, like, there's more to. There's more to all of this than just me, you know? But I want to go back to the not yet awakened because we're seeing it very clearly with dogma, especially the dogma of, like, what we talked about at the beginning, us versus them. You know, the politics, religious dogma. You know, are my religions the true religion? All this stuff, if you cling to that, you're actually clinging so hard. It's like you're clinging so hard to something that isn't even real. [00:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:40] Speaker A: It's just training in your head. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Yeah, but I always. I think that everything has a purpose. Right. Either. Even if it's just sorting out through what aligns with you and what doesn't. I feel like a lot of. A lot of that stuff was more like the training wheels to see what you would really be okay with and what things like really didn't align with you. And then to question it. And then as you started growing to really be able to have discernment between the things that are you and the things that aren't you. And when you first start out or as a kid, if you put yourself. A kid has really no. What are they going to do? Say to the parents, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to go to this thing because it doesn't align with me. Could you imagine how well that would go? [00:48:30] Speaker A: Yeah. We forget how powerless we are as children. [00:48:34] Speaker B: And that's. And the reason why I'm bringing that up is it's so easy to be so hard on ourselves. But what we have to understand is we're going through a journey of experiencing everything. And we have to experience those hard moments, to know where we stood, where we are now, and to grow from them. At those times, we didn't have many options. And as a kid, you held onto those stories and they became your traumas because you kind of had to live it before you could heal it. And it is crazy to think about how much we had to endure. But at the same time, it's something that it wasn't really a choice. The choice was to go through it. And funny thing is, when you said like, oh, you haven't really listed that. That. But here's. It's red. It's added a little bit different. But it's the same kind of concept but in different takes of it. So it says the last thing I have is approach to learning. A spiritual awakened person has a deep curiosity. A deep curiosity drives a person to question their old beliefs and seek a deeper understanding of life in existence. They are open to new ways of perceiving reality. And isn't it that constant growth of like, we're never gonna get there, but yet we just keep expanding and learning new things that makes us. [00:50:05] Speaker A: It's because that's fulfilling. [00:50:06] Speaker B: Yep. [00:50:07] Speaker A: Whereas the old stuff that you're holding on to, like you were talking with your job as an example, as just one example, can start to feel like it's just not working at all anymore. So no matter what, we're going to continue to move forward. The only constant change. [00:50:27] Speaker B: Exactly. And I love that in a way that it's like the only thing that's constant is change. And that is like, if you look at yourself, who you are now compared to how you were in the past, you've changed. We all have changed. So an unawakened person, as far as the approach to learning is a person relies on existing beliefs, opinions, and perceptions, resisting new information that contradicts their worldview. [00:50:52] Speaker A: Oh, we've talked about that before, the cognitive dissonance. [00:50:56] Speaker B: But also understand that concept because all they can base it off is a person that's unawakened. Everything they hear, everything they're experiencing is off of what they already learned. So they always want to get their answers for something that they already have learned. So that's why when you come with new ideas, they're gonna see you as like, what the heck? You're trying to literally say that everything I've learned so far is not true, or you're questioning, like, what I've gone through or what I believe in. And they'll take it personal. [00:51:28] Speaker A: Oh, they'll get it. They'll get hostile about it sometimes. [00:51:30] Speaker B: Yep. And it's just because they haven't learn that approach of opening their mind and experience new ideas. But again, we're bringing it up so that you understand the differences between them and why they get a certain way. Like, I mean, I, I, I always thought it was so funny that I said, how do you, how do you clear your social media list is you awaken spiritually. So when I started Unawakened, I had over a thousand people as friends. And keep in mind that people make like, weird profiles and then they erase them and stuff. So I'm taking that in account. But I'm dropped to less than 300. [00:52:15] Speaker A: So, I mean, because it's what feels authentic, right? [00:52:17] Speaker B: Exactly. But at the same time, I, I have never looked at anything like I need it in order to validate who I am. And even when I speak about something, I know that a lot of people get frustrated, especially those ones that aren't willing to change. But when I'm speaking out loud, my ideas, my perceptions, how I feel about things, it has to do with how I've experienced life in my own truth. And I'm not going to sugarcoat things. I'm not going to hide, and I'm not going to change who I am just so that others can feel comfortable. And that's just one of those things about being genuine and truly standing up in your own power. [00:53:00] Speaker A: So we just have a few more minutes left. I have this question that I think is so good that was prompted on my web search, and that is, what are some daily practices that anchor you in an awakened state? So let's start, because Amaral never did any of these before. So what are some of the things you can tell the people listening about that you do now that you couldn't have imagined you did when you were unawakened? [00:53:30] Speaker B: The number one thing that please do. Ground. Grounding is a lifesaver, you guys. So think about this. So imagine yourself going back to that per. That time when you weren't awakened and you carried everyone's crap, like, everyone's energy, everyone's negativity and stuff. And you didn't know what was wrong with you, but you felt like you were suffocating. You felt like you were, like, drowning in life. And if you would have known that you just needed to ground that excess energy, oh, man. Like, you would have, like, been so good from a long time ago. But it was. That was, like, super powerful for me. That's one. The other is the power of no. Here's why. Because we are taught our entire lives to say yes to everything and yes to everyone and yes to people before you. You, the moment you start learning how to say no, because it no longer aligns with you, it no longer feels right. It's like this sense of empowering. In fact, challenge yourself this month, like, this coming month, because we're almost ending this month. Try to say no as many times as you can, choosing yourself. And now you're going to see a difference. And those are called boundaries, and they sure make your life change drastically. So those are the two things that I would urge you to practice in your life immediately. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Okay. The other thing I observe about you that you do, as far as this more awake lifestyle, is your journaling. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:55:12] Speaker A: So you get a lot of your feelings out on paper. You get a lot of. You pose questions to yourself. You wait for the answers to come to you. Um, so I know a lot of people who aren't awake journal, but it's. It's a whole different approach when, once you've woken up spiritually with the kind of questions you're going to be asking yourself. [00:55:32] Speaker B: So I think what it brings it out to that spirit's telling me to mention is we all are taught that we need all these relationships with a significant other, with our families, with our friends. But the most important relationship you can build is with yourself. When you go into journal and you start asking the right questions that your soul is longing for, you'll get those answers for those questions when you finally go within and start realizing, wow, this is who I am. And I'm finally tapping into that essence, but I'm also tapping into it in a way of connecting to everything. Because we are created by source energy, so we are part of everything. And when you no longer see yourself as separate, you just. Everything starts aligning with you. The synchronicities, the. So many things. So, yes, the connection with yourself is like the most crucial thing you can do. And journaling is a great tool for you to connect with yourself. There's other tools that assist you. Crystals, especially, like sitting in intention. One of the things that I always say to people about starting to use crystals, the correct way is connect with them by asking them to help you remember. We all work by free will. When we don't ask, we don't receive. [00:57:05] Speaker A: That just reminds me now of one of my things I would never have thought I would do when I was unawakened, which is calling your spirit guides. Oh, yes, yes, yes. And I did that just this morning. I was struggling with something. Oh, guides, help me with this. And I certainly got help. It was with an aha moment, but I got the help. So we only have a couple minutes left. The other things I'm just gonna say really briefly for me, that helped me. Meditation. [00:57:36] Speaker B: Yes. [00:57:36] Speaker A: And sound healing. So these are all things that I never imagined I'd do in my life. Every morning I get up now and I drum. I was told by my guides, drum for two minutes, and went, I can drum for two minutes. No problem. That's. That's doable. And then breathing. Breathing for two minutes too, as a minimum. So, anyway, congratulations. You're on the spiritual journey. I think by listening to this, you. You recognize how far you've come and who you used to be. So good job, people. [00:58:06] Speaker B: Yep. Thank you for tuning in, and don't forget to share, and welcome to season. [00:58:10] Speaker A: Two, and we'll see you next week. [00:58:13] Speaker B: Yep. [00:58:14] Speaker A: Bye.

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