Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to Woowooville, the next stop on your spiritual journey, hosted by two fellow travelers who found a soul connection on the path to higher consciousness.
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Hello, I am Lola Singer, and I am with my favorite co host, Amaral. And there's someone special in the studio, AKA Cabin today.
So nice. We asked her twice.
Michelle Mailer is back, the quintessential mix master of the essential oils. I always call her the encyclopedia of essential oils. And we talked about her in a previous episode that you guys can revisit if you like to.
And we talked mainly about her experiences creating essential oils based on animal totems and bringing in the medicine of the animal. And now we want to switch gears because she has another focus that is one of my favorites, and that is something we call the ancient temple blends. So if anybody feels the call of Egypt or the Mayans or the Norse gods that we've talked about before, she might have a blend that reflects that because there's something deep and mystical within. Michelle Mailer.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Thank you, Lola.
Thanks for having me.
[00:01:49] Speaker A: Yes.
And I guess we can just dive in and start talking about the concept of the ancient temple oils, because when you first started making oils, you had certain blends that were matched to intentions.
[00:02:09] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: And some of those intentions evolved over time.
So I've known Michelle for. I think I've known you for at least 10 years now.
[00:02:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: And when I first met you, you weren't really focusing on things like matching the energy of a God or goddess to the oils. You were more of the change, shifting moods.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And helping with therapy oils for things like pain relief and headaches and. Yeah, tummy aches and all that good stuff.
[00:02:44] Speaker A: We can have her back for a third episode about that because her massage oil is amazing.
[00:02:49] Speaker C: So I guess the question would be, like, how did it get started? What shifted you to go into ancient temple blends?
[00:02:57] Speaker B: Well, when I first started doing aromatherapy, which was back in 2004, I made some blends for practical uses and then noticed the effects on my emotions and mental health state were very significant.
And I actually made an oil that I didn't really talk to anybody about or share at that time, but I used it for myself. And that was a divine rose blend for connecting with the divine guide, Mother Mary.
And it had rose oil in it. Not surprising.
Bulgarian Rose and some other oils that really help with meditation and grounding, like sandalwood and rosemary and then chamomile for connecting to, like, ethereal realms and angelic energies.
So I noticed that these single oils would help me with different things, and I could also connect them to aspects of a certain guide or a being that had that strength or that lesson about them.
So I didn't really blossom in that area for about 10 more years because of believing that it was a real gift that I had. I kind of kept it secret and met my son. Spiritual groups in Seattle and Skagit county that really helped me to be myself and be confident in that. And that's probably what helped to start sharing these things I had been making. And then after that, I also started creating a lot more of the blends because I had that confidence and support from my.
My spiritual and woo woo people like you guys.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: It's the encouragement of your soul tribe.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. To do that and embrace it. And it is a very strange gift to have. And it did take a bunch of cool, strange people to help me.
[00:05:07] Speaker C: Awesome.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: To see that it is wonderful. And I allow space for those beings and angels and goddesses to share with.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: Me.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: Other gifts that may not be in print somewhere that can help people and support them.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: So, you know, that brings a question like. Like, you started out with the. With the rose oil that was intentionally made to connect with divine feminine energy, specifically Mother Mary.
[00:05:38] Speaker B: Heart support for us. Physical, immediate heart support.
[00:05:44] Speaker A: How did you get your inspiration to focus on certain gods or God goddesses? Like, did. Did you just, like, have aha moments? Like, it's time for me to create a blend for, you know, like, Quan Yin, or a blend for, you know, something as disparate as Quan Yin and Sekhmet. I mean, how. How do you get that? I mean, does it just come to you that it's time to make this now?
[00:06:06] Speaker B: So the. The Mother Mary one did, because she wanted me to start my journey. And I joined this group in Everett that was a Divine Mary channeling group and got messages from Mother Mary. And that, I think, started me trusting my.
My choices of which oils were connected with things and not just thinking, oh, that's just a strange voice in my head. Well, it. You know, it's your intuition.
I heard the voice in my head and realized, oh, it's intuition. I just wasn't aware what intuition was before and didn't know how to listen to it. So once I developed that ability, I made a few blends for myself. Over the years. But I also. I would say the majority of the blends I've come up with are because someone asked me to make it for them because they wanted to work with a certain guide. And at the present, I'm working on a special blend for each of you, which I'm very excited about.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: I'm super excited.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: And when I hold space for making a blend for someone who's asked me to do that, I don't really try to time it. If someone wants it done in two days, I tell them, well, that's probably. I'm not probably the right person to have you to do that for you, because I need to allow space.
[00:07:31] Speaker A: Essential oils is 10 takes time anyway.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:35] Speaker A: It's not something you rush.
[00:07:37] Speaker B: So when I allow space for that, I have signs show up and things happen and synchronicities, and that's where I get a lot of those cues as to what needs to go into the blend. Like, this week, I happen to also be processing honey at my house with my. My housemate. And we have seven gallons of honey going through, like, 24 frames of wax and honey that we've taken from the beehives. And we leave a lot for them, too, by the way, because we want to be in harmonic, you know, community with them and not just take from them. So we support what they're doing, and they support the plants, and then we take just this, you know, amount of honey that's safe, too, and they have plenty for the winter. So anyway, all these things are going on, and I'm working on a blend that has to do with a goddess connected with bees.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Cool.
[00:08:36] Speaker B: So it is not a surprise, but we've been talking about doing the honey for four months, and it just happened to be the exact week that I am working on this blend with the bee in it. So.
[00:08:50] Speaker C: Awesome. I feel that one of the things that. That you just brought up that it's very important is especially most of our viewers are beginners, and it's about trusting your gifts and trusting your intuition. Because when we all start, there's so much noise going on around us that it takes a while for us to really connect with those and trust our gifts and say, okay, this is a little bit more than just me hearing voices. It's more like I'm being guided. And I love the fact that you just mentioned something that it's not even. You're just guided, but there's so many synchronicities that align with it. It's almost like when a certain blend is intended to come forth. You usually get an inspiration or someone might request it. But at the same time, even when you're doing it for someone you're not like, you can't do it right away because it has to be custom made. And you go a lot with synchronicities and connection, which I find it to be amazing.
Is there a.
Have you ever felt like you struggled on anything while making these blends?
[00:10:00] Speaker B: There's been a couple that I didn't really feel connected to when asked to make them. And so I had to go outside of my comfort zone to connect with those beings.
Anubis was a little challenging for me, but I had such a revelation in my own life at the time I was making it that I've never been afraid of the energy since. I actually embrace it.
[00:10:28] Speaker A: Anubis more than ever, one of my top guides. And he's actually so sweet. People are afraid of him because he's associated with death, but he is not death. He's the kind one who, who escorts confused people after they die. He takes them to safety or between.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: Onion layer deaths in this life?
[00:10:51] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Many shedding our layers of things. Like, I went on a road trip when I made Anubis and a couple of the other Egyptian oils to Sedona and the Grand Canyon. And while I was on that road trip and making those oils, I felt so, so many layers of myself fall off that didn't serve me. And I also felt like I collected pieces of myself that I had lost.
And it was through visiting the places I think definitely initiated a lot in me. And I went to Sedona, went back to the place I was creating in Phoenix and then went back out there again. And I could feel, feel the shift in me was so different just from creating the Anubis oil.
[00:11:37] Speaker A: Yep. And that's exactly what his energy is about.
[00:11:39] Speaker B: And he got to go there to get all vibed up.
[00:11:44] Speaker A: Yes. By the way, we didn't mention you can purchase her oils. If you hear any of them that you're interested in, they'll be on her website with a description of some of the ingredients in the oils and what it's intended for. So I love the Anubis oil. I think I've got three roll ons of that.
One in the basement, one upstairs, chairs, one in the purse. I mean, that's one of my all time favorites.
So Michelle's website is www.circleofhealingessential oils.com yes. It's worth all those keystrokes to get to her page. It's a beautiful website. You'll also see that she's got the totem animals we talked about as well.
So let's say you hear something in the podcast where we're talking about an oil or an ingredient or one of the beings or gods or goddesses that you feel an attachment for, like I do with Anubis.
Follow your lead, go to her website, find out a little bit about it. You just might want to see what, what she's put together with love. Because these essential oils that are the anointing oils are layered. It's not just one scent.
[00:12:56] Speaker B: Yeah. They have a lot of different types and layers of magic oils in them. Like, a lot of the blends have other animals or goddess energies attached to them, and those are listed in there too. And you just apply them to the base of your neck and your heart.
[00:13:14] Speaker C: And what's really interesting is how I want to explain a little bit on how things really connect and things are so synchronized when we're like, in alignment. So I did a Sophia code book club or reading, I guess, and I really connected to Kuan Yin. And I was very connected to Kuan Yin because so Kuan Yin is the goddess of compassion. And at that time, I really needed to work on compassion for myself, for others, from going through different things in. When I found out, like I attended one of her ancient temple blends that she had Kuan Yin, I was so excited.
[00:13:54] Speaker A: One of her classes about ancient temple.
[00:13:57] Speaker C: Yes, about ancient temple blends, that creating them, I should say. And this is the amazing part about Michelle that I absolutely love is you can bring her to you. She can come to you as long as you're locally. And she can cater to your. Like, you can have a party where you have friends come over.
There is a limit as far as for her to be worth it for her to travel, but nonetheless, what she brings into the table is she brings all these different ancient temple blends that you can customize depending on what resonates with you. So when I.
When I smell Quan Yan, I loved like that the scent and automatically I felt the kinetic, the energetic connection with it. So that's what. Another thing that for me I loved is that all of your oils that I've gotten from, from you over.
I don't even know how long we've known each other now, but the ones that I've gotten is just you keep accumulating because each one serves for something different. And then sometimes on your path, you need something and then you think like, okay, I got that. And I used it and that served its purpose. But then it comes back around, which is really interesting because there's energies that sometimes we need to move through certain parts of our life, and then sometimes it feels like we complete those things, but then it comes back around.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: Always comes back around, doesn't it?
[00:15:22] Speaker B: And I can make those blends for you, or you can make them for yourself. Like, let's say you come to my class and you're. I would call an expert level aromatherapist. I think you're probably channeling a bunch of lifetimes as an oil mixologist when you come to my classes. But you create these blends that are really perfect for you in the moment. They're layered and we keep track of this. So you could recreate it yourself if you need the same exact blend again. Or I can recreate for you if you keep track of what's in it.
And also sometimes people will come to me a few months after we've made a blend together or you've made a blend, and they'll say, okay, I need an upgrade on this. And so I can tune in and see if there's another guide or an oil that needs to be put into that blend to bring out that extra little support you have need for in your life and, you know, whatever's going on.
Cool.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I want to backtrack a little bit because I don't know if it was made abundantly clear that you actually can go to people's houses and have a mix your own blend party.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah, with guidance. Which is.
[00:16:28] Speaker C: With guidance.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Yes. She's. She's overseeing it all.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: Want to know, I want to mix these together. Will it smell good or bad? And I can tell you which ones are going to be stronger or weaker when you blend them together. So that's really fun for.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So if she knows, for example, something's pretty particularly strong, she'd go, well, you know, I told most people to use three drops, but for that one, use one.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, so it would cover everything else up or something.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: I told you, she. At the beginning, she's an expert on. On mixing these things.
[00:16:55] Speaker C: Or she'll tell you, because this scent is so strong, maybe add one drop and then add more drops of the other one, which made total sense. And if I would have just mixed it, I would have done equal parts of everything.
[00:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah, it's been really fun watching everyone grow at the close classes. But it can be for any level. If you've never done it before, it's easy. And yeah, if you Want to really take on a lot of your own mixing, which I also saw you do in the candle class. Emerald. That was wonderful. Coming up with new candle scents that were just amazing. And we have, you know, our own little ceremony and ritual candles with essential oils that have.
Hopefully in the future we'll do those with some God and goddess and the animal totem oils as well in the candles. So that would be fun.
[00:17:40] Speaker C: Yep, yep.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: I. I made a rainbow Thunder Heart blend that had to. You had tobacco?
[00:17:46] Speaker B: Yes, the tobacco oil is tobacco oil.
[00:17:49] Speaker A: It smells so good with what. I don't. I did. I didn't write it down. I don't remember what I mixed in it, but it smells so good. Everything I did was something that would be associated with a drum ritual. So I think I used cedar and tobacco and I might have used Eagle because he's associated with eagles anyway.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah. It's also a really like eco sensitive way to use tobacco and cedar and all these things. If you are. Let's say you're traveling and you need to do a ceremony, you can't bring all those things with you.
You could use a little oil that has those mixed in it and bring in the blessings for the ceremony.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I should probably backtrack. I do a. A drum circle once a month. And I was. I'm the caretaker of a medicine drum that was made by an amazing Earth medicine. Native American, went around the world setting up medicine wheels and grids for healing the planet. And his name's Rainbow Thunderheart. So at one of her classes, I devoted a fragrance to Rainbow Thunder Heart. And it turned out great. So anyway, you can. You can set the intention for anything or anyone. Or it could be a God or goddess or it could be. I just want one that makes me feel like I'm happy at work.
[00:19:07] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: Or one for creativity. I made one called Muse, which is also called Otter.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: Oh, Otter's fun.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: Okay. So going back to the divine timing, here's a divine timing that involved Amaral. And I don't know that we were the best of friends at that point. We knew each other, but he was going to be going to Egypt.
And I had seen Michelle at one of the fairs and I walked up to her and I was dead serious because we're moving out of a patriarchal system. A 2000 year cycle that has been pretty rough.
And I thought, well, you know what? We're easing into this new era of cooperation.
You could call it Age of Aquarius. You can call it Age of Horus. You can call it New Age, whatever you want to call it. But now we're moving into bringing in more of the divine feminine to balance out what's become a toxic masculine. I said this. I actually walked up to her table. I said it in such dead seriousness like, the world needs Hathor.
It needs a Hathor blend. Because Hathor is the Egyptian goddess of love and nurturing. Very much motherly, very sweet, loves all her children, which would be all of humanity. Right. And so she listened to me and went, yeah, let me work with that. And so talk about synchronicity before I talk about Egypt. Can you talk about what happened when you did actually blend Hathor by.
By my request, which is also. It's available on your website, right? Yes, Hathor is available on our website. But let's hear the little story about Hathor was birthed after I so dead. Seriously went, the world needs Hathor.
[00:20:53] Speaker B: So I went on a trip to work on Hathor and Medusa.
I created space for that by dog sitting for some friends in Salem, Oregon.
And while I was there, my plan was to work the entire think it was six days on these two blends and hold space for that. And it was a full moon week, so I made the.
The two oils got done a little bit far, like a day apart, but the Hathor oil was the second one to get done. And that was the night of the full moon. And I finished it, set it on the table under the full moon, walked out to the street to see if I could see the full moon because I couldn't see it from the backyard.
And I look, I'm looking down the street, and it's a little bit smoky because there was some fires going on somewhere nearby. And I'm looking for the moon. And all of a sudden I hear this footsteps behind me. I turn around and like two feet away from me is a deer just walking by me down the street.
And that was like.
It took my breath away. I. I tried not to make a noise and scare it, but I was just so in shock. And I felt this feeling go through my body of. It was just like a gratitude nature sign for me finishing that oil. And it was so beautiful.
Within 10 minutes of, you know, setting them out ceremoniously and.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: And what animal could represent mothering and gentleness and nurturing better than a deer?
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:31] Speaker A: Such a good blend with Hathor.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: Hathor, when I was studying about her to make that oil, it said that she is the connector of the upper. I think it was upper and Lower Nile and helped her children who were at war with each other to get along and helped her community to thrive and connected all the different, you know.
[00:23:00] Speaker A: Yeah. She's also associated with the fertility of the Nile and, you know, the flooding of the Nile. So that.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: And probably. She probably helped with connecting the people to work with the harvest together as well, too.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: Okay, so that. This is phase one of the story. So. Talk about synchronicities.
So she gives me the blend, a little test blend.
It wasn't quite official yet of. Of the Hathor oil shortly before Amaral is going to Egypt.
So I asked Amiral, can you. I will give you part of this oil. Can you. You take it to Egypt and take my Hathor oil to Egypt and charge it under an Egyptian moon.
So you want to take it from there?
[00:23:43] Speaker C: Yeah. So it was really interesting because somehow things lined it up. But when I went to Egypt, I did not. Like, I remember that specific day because the full moon was so bright. And, you know, seeing the full moon, like kind of the background of the pyramids, it's something amazing itself. But I had the oil, and I just, like, put the intention of just charging it with the moon because they don't want to leave it out because it was this, like, terrace, almost like you went all the way up on top of the hotel, and that's the view, the main view that you had of it.
Of course, we went another day to check out the pyramids, but it was incredible that that trip was something else for me, because the moment I got to the Giza pyramids, like, physically entering the Giza pyramids, my third eye just caught on fire. Literally, that's how it felt. And when I went to the museum, I just felt so drained because there was so much energy and so much conn. Connection. It took a long time to integrate everything, but I was able to bring her back her oil charge. So it was. It's just incredible how things line up. Like, literally, you just.
It's. It's weird. I was telling my husband this, like, yesterday to. To be exact, I said, I just feel like when the more connected we are, the more synchronicities are happening all the time, because they're telling you what, go green light, that this is, like, the path that you supposed to be taking.
And so that's why, like, I was like, telling him, because he's kind of struggling because he's like, can't. Doesn't want to leave things behind. And I'm like, you know, synchronicities, like, listen to your heart and whatever guides you just go with that, because that's what's right, and that's what I do with my life now. I don't push anything. I don't force anything. I just allow.
Which is pretty much what you did to kind of started creating the ancient temple blends. And I love the fact that you have so many different ones that do so such different, energetic work.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Good. You're heading where I wanted to go, which is, let's tell them about some of the blends that she has. Let's start with the Egyptian ones, because we're talking about Egypt.
So I know you have raw.
What would you like to tell people about the energy of Raw?
[00:26:10] Speaker B: I feel like raw is for guiding your passion. If you are, you know, looking to find that spark that you need.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: Well, that makes sense.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: Very spicy and warm, and it has some, like, creative energy to it as well.
Thoth is or Toth.
[00:26:33] Speaker A: Nobody speaks ancient Egyptian anymore, so, you know, potato.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Potato was probably one of my favorite.
[00:26:40] Speaker A: To make T h o T h.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: Besides Anubis, because I experienced a great, like, confidence in the fact that I want to just keep learning the rest of my life. And that's a good, like, an awesome thing to just be a, like, lifetime student of essential oils and always be learning and not be like, oh, I know everything. I don't need to check anything else out. I feel like I. I could never stop that. But that oil, when I made it, helped me connect to bringing through past life knowledge as well, which really speeds up the learning process.
[00:27:20] Speaker A: That makes sense because he's the God.
[00:27:22] Speaker C: Of communication and he's also the record keeper. Deeper.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: And so if somebody wants to set the intention to connect with some past lives, that would be a great blend for them.
[00:27:33] Speaker B: It would.
[00:27:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: And also to know that you are on the right path. He's. He's all about knowing that you're on the right path without knowing what's coming next. And this week, as I was mentioning before the podcast, I feel like I haven't known any day what's going to happen, but I've also felt very calm and secure in the fact that I'm adaptable and I can go with whatever happens and know what's important to me to happen each day. That, you know, self care, obviously, is on that list. But to know where you're going is, like, gonna help you to grow more in the flow than being resistant.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: So that's what I think he's all about. And while I was making that blend, I also added blue hair into it, which I'LL talk about because the layers we.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: But that goes with his symbol of the ibis.
[00:28:22] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: So the blue heron are interchangeable in my animal totem sense. And the blue heron is about talking to people about things that are hard for them to hear while maintaining a level of peacefulness between you. So there's always times that we need to talk to somebody about something that it seems like, oh, it's never going to be the right time to bring up the subject, you know, and if you don't, sometimes it can really cause problems between you or make them miss out on something that maybe you. You didn't have the confidence to share with them that could really help them because you thought it might hurt their feelings. So blue heron helps with that and so does the to.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: That would make sense because it would improve communication, which is what he's associated with.
[00:29:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:09] Speaker C: And the thing, too, that's happening, especially like those of us. Like, I can relate that working on myself, like, all the time.
And my husband isn't. There's a frisk. Frequency mismatch. And even though he's shifting on his own thing. So this will allow you to have more of a conversation where you're being misunderstood instead of taking it into, like, them thinking it's an argument or is like, something against them or that they're doing something wrong.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: I like that. That term you just used, the frequency mismatch. I'm gonna have to write that down.
I feel like using essential oils helps you also to ground almost any blend that you're going to use.
If it would have an ingredient, most likely that's grounding, tree oils and herbal oils, or almost all grounding.
That helps you to not be affected as much by the frequency mismatch while you're communicating, if that makes sense.
[00:30:08] Speaker C: Yes.
Yeah.
[00:30:09] Speaker A: So I love that there's, you know, these oils can be a tool. Tool to enhance your intentions.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah. It can help you to center so you're also not triggered by things when you're talking to someone.
[00:30:23] Speaker C: You just gave me an idea. I ran into an essential oil that it's fur. And I'm like, what better thing than a tree to ground you?
[00:30:31] Speaker A: Exactly.
Oh, oh, oh. Well, even though this is a sidebar. Tell them about geometry.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I made a tree blend years ago for balance grounding, and it actually helps with brain repair, believe it or not.
I've had some people use it for, like, head trauma, like getting an accident or something like that hitting their head. But the tree oils in it, there's eight different tree Oils are super grounding and with the combination of them help to protect you from other people's energy. Because copaiba, balsam, which is in there, and sandalwood and frankincense are all very protective.
And they also can help you just to create better boundaries because you're grounded.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: So didn't you tell me that that's one of your best sellers?
[00:31:26] Speaker B: It is. It's mostly for mental health, is what people tend to purchase it for. But it is also really good for spiritual protection, grounding good dreams. And it helps with physical traumas, like to your spine, joints, things like that. I've had people with a old injury in their shoulder use that for a while and have the injury go away after. I mean, this is like a decades old injury and then also new injuries. Like I was saying, if you have a head trauma, I would add a couple extra things to it for nerve support. But that blend is really good for a lot of things your body needs. It just kind of works with your body to heal all kinds of different things. Trees are amazing.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: Yes. So I think that the people listening will really appreciate that. Even if you don't get to smell it in person, you might want to order it online for all those benefits.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: It's in some of the goddess blends as well because it helps you to center and connect with your guides. So there's a couple of blends that have that.
[00:32:28] Speaker A: Well, speaking of centering with guides, you mentioned you're really connected to Isis. Is there an Isis blender? Isn't there?
[00:32:34] Speaker B: Yeah, and that's one of my favorite perfumes as well. Some of these can be used as perfumes, and that's one of them. And Holy Grail and.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Lilith. Well, let's talk about Isis first. Why would somebody want Isis?
[00:32:48] Speaker B: Isis is good for getting out of your own way if you're stopping yourself from moving forward.
She's also about being your own sovereign being and just giving a lot of confidence and like also bringing in past life knowledge, I believe. Yeah, Isis is good for that. Because when I started working with her, I felt like that's when I started being able to connect with all of the other God and goddess energy.
[00:33:25] Speaker A: She was a catalyst.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: She was the first one I worked with. And I actually didn't make the oil. It's. I thought it was kind of weird that I didn't, but I made all these other oils with her help and then later ended up making the Isis oil. And when I made it, I just heard something.
[00:33:42] Speaker A: Have you got divine guidance directly from Isis as A guide?
[00:33:45] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: Oh, that's cool.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: For years. And then I think it was three or four years after I started working with her, I finally made the Isis oil, and it became my favorite perfume.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: So that makes sense because it's a. It's a. It's a frequency match for you, and.
[00:34:02] Speaker B: It has some lovely jasmine and sandalwood and other awesome things like neroli, and there's a lot of yummy stuff in it.
[00:34:10] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:34:11] Speaker C: And just looking into it, too, like, because, like, that's one that, like, it's for a certain purpose, but, like, I'm looking at a complete opposite to just kind of show how different energy could work and how these ancient temple blends can better assist you. Is, for example, I'm looking at Sasquatch right now, and that one's to stay in your vortex and protection from negative energy.
And that enhances sleep and intuition.
And we know so many Sasquatch connected people here.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:44] Speaker C: I've even had. I think I have a guy, I'm pretty sure, because I've ran into him a few times. But it just.
It's. It's so interesting that you think of these beings that can truly bring certain medicine. Is it when you tap into their medicine, is it something that just kind of comes naturally? Is it something that you kind of feel it out of, like, oh, this is, like, what it feels like? Or do you get, like, more of the channel message, like, this is for this and this and this?
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Well, the Sasquatch is a great one for you to ask about that because that one actually was created a little differently than most of the others.
I had been going to an event for many years where we camped out in a valley, and there's a hill above that. I would always camp in the same spot, and I would look up this hill, and I always imagined that I saw a big Sasquatch up there.
And I got up my binoculars finally, and, you know, still didn't see anything. So I took a hike up there. It was very tricky finding this way up to this place because there was no trail.
So eventually, this is like, after 10 years of staring at it, I took a hike up there, and what I found was not what I thought. You know how you can look at a tree from. Or a pile of logs from a certain direction? It looks like something. And then you go out, you get close to it, and it doesn't look anything like that from the side. Right. Well, that's what happened. It was a pile of logs, and next to it was a mock orange tree. Which had the most amazing scent I've ever smelled.
And I. While I was there and smelling the tree, I thought to myself that I need to create something for when I go home from here.
To not feel abruptly thrown into society is how I'm going to put it after this beautiful nature experience. I always felt like I can't go to Costco anytime within the first 24 hours of getting home because it's too real for me. Right? And so I felt like I couldn't be myself when I went back from this nice place I had found. And I know we all have to live our lives and we have to, you know, pay our bills. And I couldn't just camp in the forest forever. So I made this oil to help protect my energy, soften it when I had to go out into society. So I feel like the Sasquatch energy that I felt that, you know, from that hill and connected to that. And I also connected it to protector of fairies, the Sasquatch, and started using that and sharing that oil with the people from that event.
And so when we went home, it wasn't as hard, and it really did work. It was amazing because it's very grounding. It has the protection copa oil in it that helps filter out other people's negative energies. And it's been used by shamans for centuries, the same way as palo Santo.
But you could, you know, just wear some subtle little fragrance. This does not have a strong smell to it. It's almost invisible, actually.
The Sasquatch scent. A lot of people ask me, and a lot of people ask me, can you make it stronger? And I say, well, that's not really the point is a super powerful oil for protection and grounding and keeping your. Your energy and for intuition, so that you can go between realms whenever you want. You can use it for meditation, for, you know, astral traveling, whatever. It's really good for that. It has sandalwood, frankincense, myrrh, and copeba balsam, which is all of the sacred oils.
So that's how that blend was created. And then, of course, people loved it and it became one of my products. But I created it for a certain purpose for myself and other people.
[00:38:42] Speaker C: Oh, that's awesome. And which so funny because I'm like, well, I might need some of that. So last time when we met on one of your classes, when we did the. The ancient temple blends and we also did the sprays, I did one for integration.
And interesting enough, you said a few key words that really drew me in. One you said, like, we can always remake it, but also we can enhance it too. So I'm thinking that I, like, the ingredients are in it, but I think I want to add Sasquatch to it because right after my plant retreat, I'm gonna have a huge integration part back to society, and I kind of need that assistance.
[00:39:22] Speaker B: That would be wonderful. I'd love to help you do that.
[00:39:24] Speaker C: And I have the ingredients, actually, so I saved it.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: Great.
[00:39:28] Speaker A: We got divine timing in action once again.
[00:39:30] Speaker C: Y like, just listening and paying attention, but things just flow naturally, too.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I love creating this time of year. The Day of the Dead's coming up, and I.
I'm excited to be finishing a few new blends right around that time.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: Oh, boy, I can't wait. Okay, well, let's talk about your current blends that are related once again to ancient temple gods or goddesses, because that's the main topic today, and I would love people to know what's available.
And one of my.
You got to be strong to wear it.
It's got to be Sekhmet.
For those who don't know, Sekhmet is the dark side of Hathor. Actually.
She's a lioness goddess, and she is vindictive, looking for revenge up in arms, but justifiably so.
So she's a good symbol of the feminine rebelling against what the toxic masculine. So she's pretty. She's. You don't mess with Sekhmet. That's all I'm going to say. And she has a Sekhmet oil, so people must feel powerful when they wear that one.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: Yes. That one is for not giving a darn what anyone else thinks and doing what you need to.
[00:40:50] Speaker C: But also, I may add. Let's just sprinkle a little information about Sekhmet is. Is that I've done healings where she comes in. And she's also such a great guide for going on those deep and shedding away the things that just are not connected to you.
[00:41:06] Speaker A: Because everything's out of. It's all out of love.
[00:41:08] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: But it's like justifiable rage out of love. Because something's gone too far in the. In the wrong direction. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:41:19] Speaker C: And she gets it done. I do agree with.
It was awesome. When she came in, the only way they.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: In the. In the folklore, the only way they could stop her on her rage was to get her drunk on beer, which I always think is funny.
Okay. And then there's one that's not Egyptian, but pre Egyptian, which would be your one. You're calling, I'm saying Inanna because that's the Anunnaki slash Egyptian. But you also call it Lilith and Panacea. And that, that is also going to be very strong, isn't it?
[00:41:58] Speaker B: That one is my. One of my other favorite perfumes, actually.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: I don't mean strong scent, I mean strong intention.
[00:42:04] Speaker B: Yes. That one is kind of. It's kind of like segment but in a different way. Like that really powerful.
Just nothing can stop her energy.
Yeah. Lilith is that way with sensuality. So if you are trying to connect to your, your sensual self and you feel shame or guilt or repression and something, you know, most of us do in some area of our sensuality, that can help you to release that.
And the Inanna oil is connected to.
I feel like it's the outer space oil. I know I'm saying that wrong.
[00:42:52] Speaker A: Do you know cosmic.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: Yeah, cosmic energy. And then Panacea is actually a medicine woman.
So it's got the sensuality, the cosmic energy and medicine woman all in one.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: So. So this is a blend of all three.
[00:43:10] Speaker B: It has three names. I actually, I'm probably changing this soon to just Lilith because it's a little confusing for some people.
[00:43:17] Speaker C: But.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: I have another blend coming out soon that's going to be another triple goddess oil.
[00:43:24] Speaker A: Really? And that's appropriate?
[00:43:26] Speaker B: Yeah, that will be coming out Made Mother Crone about the same time as you. Both your custom blends and it is Isis, Lilith and Hecate.
[00:43:38] Speaker A: Don't mess with Hecate either.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: So the three of those together, it's like the maiden Mother Crone energy.
And also just having your own spiritual support team.
I, I do feel like Lilith really helps with social media problems. I know that sounds like a strange thing for a goddess to do, but they're helping us now, just like they've helped us through every other change in history.
And she can help with breaking the hypnotism of the media.
And this is something that was channeled when I was making her blend.
I actually ran a stop sign when I was making her blend because she made a song come into my head.
She said, keep your mind off your money and your money off your mind.
And I was like, whoa, I'm driving here. That's like a strange thing to come into my head because I, you know, I don't even, I know the song that it's originated from, but I also don't really listen to that music very much. So I thought it was funny that she was using that song to tell me a message to put into her description.
Along with that, she can help you break the hypnotism of the media.
And I believe that's because she helps you connect with your sensual self, which appreciates the color of green in the leaves and appreciates the scent in the air and the way that a bird flies or, you know, just little things that make you appreciate the beauty all around you and all of you and connecting to each of your senses that can heal other areas that maybe you're compensating for that feeling of satiation from nature or seeing the wonder and the beauty in all of your senses that you can take in through taste and, you know, sight and touch.
So instead of looking to just, you know, stop doing one thing, sometimes starting something else will fill that area so that you don't feel like you need the other thing anymore. Instead of saying, oh, I can't do this anymore, how about, oh, I'm gonna start doing these other things? Maybe I'll forget to do this other thing.
For us who are very stubborn, like me as a Taurus, that's a great way to trick myself into having new habits. Is just starting to add in new things. And keep in mind, I'm okay with those ones going away, but I'm not going to say I need to stop them or quit them or measure them.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: Okay. Just focusing on something new lets the other ones kind of drift away.
[00:46:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's a long way to explain what you read here in a sentence, but that's because when I was making the oil, I was working through all of this, and was it each. Each different oil that I make teaches me new things about myself, which transfers.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: To the people who are using it.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Absolutely smells amazing. Oh, my goodness.
[00:46:29] Speaker A: I want to go back to, you know, women and sensuality because this is one of my other favorites, Aphrodite.
[00:46:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that one's wonderful, people. It smells like chocolate, and it changes on everyone.
[00:46:41] Speaker A: Oh, it smells like chocolate.
[00:46:43] Speaker B: It's like a pheromone changing scent. It's like. It's one of the. I have only made a couple scents that do that, but the Aphrodite changes on everyone. It's a. It's a very universally loved scent by a lot of people, you know.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: Yes. And that's to help you get in charge, in touch with your own sensuality. And just like the goddess.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: That she's named after. And I. I just.
[00:47:09] Speaker B: And it does have cacao oil, Tahitian vanilla, and some other wonderful things.
[00:47:15] Speaker C: And see, we have, like, within that realm, too, of just very powerful.
What can you tell us about Kali.
[00:47:23] Speaker B: That is for being your best version of your badass self without being too mean, I would say. Well, I mean, I'm not.
[00:47:33] Speaker A: She can appear mean, but she's clinical.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: That's. Well, okay, so let's say that one person has to chop a bunch of stuff to get your attention. Another person just stands there with a look on their face and gets your attention. And, you know, the same respect for each of those people, but one of them has to do all this action. The other one just stands there. Kali is the one that she will take action, but you most likely aren't going to want to push her to that, because you're going to see that energy is not something you want to mess with. And that's the energy she brings to you.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: She's just removing the things that need to go anyway that maybe. Maybe for some reason your subconscious is still holding on to. Yep. But it's not serving you. So I love Kali's concern. It's gone.
[00:48:25] Speaker C: I just quick.
I love the polarity as far as that. On description, it says creatures and the structures is like. You get both.
[00:48:34] Speaker A: But it's like the death card in tarot. There's always. When there's an ending, there's a reverse.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: It makes room for something new.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Like she was talking about with the previous oil.
And then. Okay, this is my favorite oil, bar none. Even. Even better than Anubis.
My number one favorite oil of Michelle Mailer that when I do mix my own scents I always put it in is Medusa.
[00:49:02] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:49:03] Speaker A: I'm not Medusa.
[00:49:06] Speaker B: That's a newer one that was also made the same night as Hathor.
[00:49:11] Speaker A: And Medusa is. She's take. She's taking back the power of women.
It's. It's a distorted myth.
[00:49:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it is.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Where during the matriarchy, then, Then. Then a. A male hero comes, destroys the snake woman energy. But the snake woman is all about wisdom and growth and transformation. So it was really about usurping the feminine. So there's nothing wrong with Medusa. It's just a story that's been tainted through a patriarchal lens.
[00:49:42] Speaker C: Well, yeah. And then the backstory of Medusa, she was a.
A priestess for Athena, I believe, and she was raped in one of her temples. So she was shone upon and blame for the raping itself and was casted as, like the snakes to come out, like, how she turned into. And so the very, very beginning, she was just.
It's so interesting that all these female figures seem to have, like, all these Roughness. And then when you truly learn their story, it has nothing to do with what we were told about them. Yeah, well, it's more like Hollywood tries to portray every single time a female in a certain way.
It's almost like the whole evil and.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: Well, yeah, because it's a threat to the patriarchal Hollywood system to. To show the complexity of the feminine and that, you know, like we talked about earlier with some of these other goddesses, there's the love there, but there's also the tough love, Mom.
Right. So you can be really sweet and nurturing, but also so know when it's time to cut the cords.
[00:50:50] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:50:51] Speaker A: As. As a woman.
And I think the Medusa blend, it was interesting because I think when you were first introducing it, Michelle, you brought it to a fair.
I sniffed it. I went, I want that now.
And then I took it around to all my friends at their tables. I went. Because you only had. Because you had just made it. You only had, like, four bottles.
[00:51:14] Speaker B: I think I only had one, actually.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: No, you had more than one because they bought them.
You sold out. It might have been. No, not at this. It was at the store. Yeah. Oh, you brought them to the fair. I said, I have to have that. After I smelled it, every person who I shared it with bought whatever you had that day. So that's how good Medusa is, people.
[00:51:36] Speaker B: So that has my snake totem oil in it, which has a lot of jasmine and sandalwood. And I have another version of the Medusa story that I've heard, if you guys would like to.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: So the other version I heard is that she was a medicine woman. And this. You know how they talk about Native American stories are. You know, some of them are just a story to teach you a lesson. It's not like they're telling you this really happened, but some of them are. You know, things have really happened, and some are. Here's an example. Well, I feel like this story about Medusa was a great, great example, and it was.
It could have been twisted into all the stories that you just talked about. Okay. But I. The original maybe story was that she was a medicine woman that was a beautiful healing priestess, unless you crossed her and then the snakes would come out.
So it was like half.
Half good, half evil, kind of like the Hella. Hella a little bit, but she. Yeah, there's different versions of that. I've also heard another version that these monks made up the story about her because she would cause men to turn to stone in a different sexual way.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: Yeah, that Makes sense.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: And they didn't like that because it messed with their monk and their monastery, and so they maybe started a rumor about her.
Anyway, there's a lot of stories, and I've. I've tried to look. Look at all of them with a little perspective, but I feel like mainly she is, for us, embracing our own medicine and not having anybody mess with us while we're working on the stuff we need to do. And we can remain invisible energetically with, like, a cloaking device.
[00:53:25] Speaker A: Okay. And we mentioned Hela in passing. Can you tell us a little about the Hella blend?
That's a Norse goddess. Yeah.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: The Hella blend is good for removing people and objects in your life that are not serving you, that are maybe holding you back or bringing down your energy or bringing back trauma from other lives because of patterns.
So there's turkey vulture and phoenix in that one. The turkey vulture helps to cut away everything that's rotting in your life, and the phoenix helps to burn it away to bring in new energy.
[00:54:01] Speaker A: Oh, what a great combo.
[00:54:02] Speaker B: That's just an example of how the animal totems and the goddesses work together.
[00:54:06] Speaker C: Do you have that with you?
[00:54:11] Speaker A: Another one I'd like to address before we've just got a few minutes left is Sophia.
[00:54:16] Speaker B: Yes. And let me tell you about the history of that one, because that's something that we definitely wanted to cover today. The first oil, I talked about the divine rose, which I made the beginning of this in, like, 2004, when I started mixing.
That was a Mother Mary blend. And then over the years, I created Sophia, which was kind of like an upgrade of the Mother Mary blend with some other oils added to it.
The Mother Mary blend had the. The rose, rosemary, sandalwood, and chamomile. And then I added lemon balm, which is a very vibrant, powerful focus oil that really clears your mind and helps to even bring out the lovely scent of the rose even more in that Sophia blend. And then later, it evolved into the Holy Grail oil. So there's. I have all these separate oils from the. You know, the journey to making this. And then I have the final end result, which I feel like is the.
The mother of all goddess oils. And that is the Holy Grail, which is the eternal womb of creation. And it smells amazing. It has hella oil. It has bee oil. It has Sophia and some other stuff, secret ingredients.
[00:55:39] Speaker A: And I have the Holy Grail oil. And it is. It is. It's just. It's. It's so feminine. I mean, there's. There's A strong rose and then all the other energy packed into one tiny little bottle. But it's just heavenly.
Okay. Are there any goddesses we missed? We got about.
I think we got two more minutes.
[00:56:01] Speaker B: Only 27 or so.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: Only. Yeah. So you can go to our website to find out more. But it is interesting how sometimes an animal totem that she's created, like we talked about in the previous episode she was in. Please listen to that.
Can be used. Used as the inspiration because.
For the goddess blends.
[00:56:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:23] Speaker A: Or like Ra, the God blend.
So anyway, I highly recommend Michelle contact her if you're interested in having a party. If you're local to too. You're in the Lake Stevens, Washington area, correct?
[00:56:36] Speaker B: Yeah, anywhere in Washington. Portland area. Really? I'll travel around.
[00:56:41] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't know that.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:56:44] Speaker A: Unless it snows. She's like me. No snow.
[00:56:46] Speaker C: And see what I think I. What I keep getting is that we came here to create. So when we get to experience these workshops or these classes where we get to mix our own thing and it's already such powerful energy for. From each one of the deities or beings, it just totally feeds us.
[00:57:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:09] Speaker C: In moving forward, I know you said something that was really.
To me, it really popped up in my head.
The part about aligning with purpose is feeling like what you're doing is making a difference, loving what you're doing and creating things.
Where do you see yourself moving on? Like into the future? Like, what would you love to see about yourself?
[00:57:36] Speaker B: I really like to do more new blends for people that are looking for guidance and want a custom scent for themselves that not only helps them, but it gets me into more research and connection with all kinds of cool energies. So that's something I definitely want to be doing. More cool traveling.
[00:57:59] Speaker A: Yes. So you can get her make a request for a custom blend, but you may want to start by going to her website and ordering one of your favorite gods or goddesses or animal totem scents.
Check her out at www.circleofhealingessentialoils.com and we'll see you next week.
[00:58:20] Speaker C: Thank you for tuning in.
[00:58:21] Speaker B: Thanks, Michelle.
[00:58:21] Speaker C: Don't forget to share.
