INTEGRATION

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Woowooville, the next stop on your spiritual journey, hosted by two fellow travelers who found a soul connection on the path to higher consciousness. Our goal is to help you navigate the choppy waters you're likely to encounter on the spirit on the spiritual path by sharing our experiences with you each week. Join us as we spill the tea on what it's like to wake up to your authentic self. Hello, my name is Emeril, and I am here with. [00:00:33] Speaker B: I'm Lola, and I'm kind of awake to my authentic self, which is kind of leading into segueing into what the topic is today. Because when you work really hard on the spiritual path and you've been pushing hard and doing a lot of things to help yourself to release old patterns, sometimes you need to rest afterward. [00:01:00] Speaker A: Yes. So our episode today, it's called Spiritual Integration, which I do have to say, the reason why I even brought up to Lola, like, I came in and said, I know what we should talk about. This is I acknowledge it in my head. However, practicing is a whole nother thing. And just like everybody else, we all have good things about us and things that we don't, we're not, like, so great at. So this is my not so great at part, which is integrating. I am great jumping into everything from classes to all these things. [00:01:44] Speaker B: But, yeah, so you've heard, if you've listened to other episodes, we're always referring to Amarl as being on the fast track when it comes to the spiritual journey, because he's been accomplishing in a few short. I mean, less than two years, right? [00:02:02] Speaker A: No, more than two. Well, it was. Yeah, it was 20. [00:02:05] Speaker B: 20. [00:02:06] Speaker A: 20, yeah. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Okay. So he started spiritual journey in 2020. I started about 10 years earlier. The background noise is Mia. She always likes to make noises once we start recording. That's my cat. So it's not a race to the finish, you know, so it's the fact that it's taken me this much time to work on forgiving myself and others, doing my shadow work, and to get to the point I'm at today, which I'm very grateful I'm at this point, at this time, I've seen Amaral do much more quickly than I have, and that's what he's getting at. So traditionally with Amaral, because he's a scorpion, Scorpios are intense. I don't think anybody's going to argue with that. He's also intense about learning. You're intense about growing, and you're intense about your spiritual journey and how you recognize it's been shifting you mentally, emotionally, and even physically because you feel the chemical changes too. So he's been advised by several of us who've been on this journey longer. Like, you know, you need to take a little time to integrate after. After you have been pushing hard. But his tendency so far, although he's more aware of it now, is to go, oh, yeah, I know I should. And then he'll sign up for another class exactly the same week he just finished something. And then he's gonna go to a ceremony, like a cacao ceremony or a sound bath. He's gonna shift his energy. He's just like the go, go, go, Energizer Bunny when it comes to the spiritual journey. And so it's been very recently that you're starting to appreciate integration. [00:03:42] Speaker A: Yes, because I think that. I think there comes a point to all of us that we can hear it in logic, it makes sense in our head, but for us to practice it is like a whole different thing to do in what it's been. For me, at least, I can only say. So first, let's go into the description of what and I. Yeah, because integration. [00:04:05] Speaker B: Might be a term that you've never heard of in the audience. [00:04:07] Speaker A: Exactly. So we want to hear the definition. So I have. I reached. I searched for the Google definition of it, and Lola searched for another one. [00:04:16] Speaker B: With a little twist. [00:04:17] Speaker A: And I like her little twist. But we're going to read both of you. So mine says spiritual integration generally refers to the process of bringing together different aspects of one's being, often with a focus on aligning mental, emotional, physical in spiritual dimensions into a cohesive whole. [00:04:42] Speaker B: And that underlying undertone to that is sometimes we need to rest and allow it to all kind of just settle. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Yep. [00:04:53] Speaker B: So when I decided to look up the meaning of integration, I wanted to apply it to our show, which is about the spiritual journey. So that's what I plugged in. I said integration, spiritual journey. And this is what came up as the first thing on my search. It says, and I like this. Spiritual integration on a journey involves blending spiritual understanding and experiences with everyday life, fostering a harmonious connection between your inner and outer worlds. It's a process of embodying spiritual principles such as compassion, peace, and self compassion into your daily routines and actions. This integration aims to create a more authentic and meaningful experience where spirituality permeates every aspect of your life. So a small example they offer is that you might integrate compassion by actively listening to other people and offering understanding or gratitude by expressing appreciation. For the simple things in life like what we do, we wake up and we think of things that we're grateful for even before we get out of bed sometimes. Right. So it's, it's. I like this. It is, it's about taking all of the hard spiritual work you've done like the classes and the courses and the self examination and going inward and the meditations and now how do, how do I integrate this into the 3D world? How can I marry the two? [00:06:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I think that my, my biggest thing that I always find it is that it's like, how do I, it's like embody this new version of myself. Because the more you go through healing yourself, then you have to integrate almost like a new version of yourself. And this new version is first of all has to go through the whole process of accepting that you have healed certain traumas and the way you're looking at things is differently. But then the thing that, it's like a true advantage which like we were talking about is having compassion is now because you understand things from a higher perspective, you're able to bring this knowledge back to help others too. In a lot of the times, at least that I've realized is that you naturally align with people that can really benefit from the things that you go through. When you're going through, like when you're inter integrating the new version of you, it like you'll run into people, they're still going through some. Not that there's, like Lola said, there's no race but we are all in different levels of our journey. So you're going to find that others may not be have or still going through certain lesson and all you do is like you can be compassionate by A listening to them and B, by giving them pointers about what worked for you. They can always choose to take it or leave it. However, it's just there and it helps you. I think also because I'm, I'm involved with, I like, I'm a breath work facilitator. So when you go into breath work sometimes there's, there's a lot of times where people share about things that they're going through. So you're able to give them better advice of what has worked for you and what hasn't worked for you. [00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah, and while we're talking, I think I just want to go to something very, very, very basic. So all of the things we talked about, you know, when you're actively pursuing something like classes and more information and you're being in the masculine Role, you know, it's like going out and I'm getting more. I'm. Whether it's knowledge or insights or, I guess, anything, you know, it's like, I'm going to go out, I'm going to get more, I'm going to get more, I'm going to get more. That is part of the spiritual journey for sure, especially early on, because you're just so hungry for information. You read every spiritual book, you know, you watch every spiritual YouTube tuber you can find, but then you have to have the feminine balance it out. So the integration part is where you allow that information, all these things you've been pursuing, to just gently, gently enter your system, and then you adjust to it. So it's like the art card or the temperance card in tarot. I tell my students, we can shift our thoughts immediately. We can shift our emotions quickly, very fast. We can even shift our spiritual concepts quickly. But the body doesn't work on that particular type of energetic wavelength. It needs time to integrate. So there is also a chemical shift that happens when we have these big spiritual shifts facilitated by actively pursuing something. But we need to remember the feminine and the masculine have to balance each other, so they're. Your body needs time. You need to be gentle with yourself, and you do need a little bit of time sometimes before diving into the next project so that it really sinks in. And, you know, sometimes for me, you know, I think I'm the opposite of how you've been. It's like, oh, I'm tired. I'm going to go lie down. Oh, another thing that I think people think they're doing wrong when they're new in the spiritual journey, and I never felt this way. They think that if they fall asleep, that nothing's happening. But that's when I'm getting a lot of downloads. I know I am right. And you're on your astral journeys and you're. You're. You're connecting with information at the astral level. I always thought if I fell asleep, that it was a good thing, but I think that a lot of people new to the spiritual journey think, oh, I was like, I was contemplating this or meditating on it, and I fell asleep. It's like, no integration is knocking you out. So the downloads can come without your brain being on overdrive. [00:11:11] Speaker A: Yep. You just brought up a really good point, Lola, that I hadn't, like, even put together. So yesterday I was in. I participated in a Reiki circle. And within this Reiki circle, we were talking about ways to. When you're going through your spiritual journey and you're experiencing different things. How we get so caught up with like normally when we live our regular lives is like you have to do something, you're expected to follow something, or like you have to look at life as a task. And I was telling someone that what I've learned so far is the complete opposite on your spiritual journey. And that's like part of what integration is showing me. Example, yesterday the sun was out and I looked outside through the window and I saw the sun hitting the plants. I even saw like the plants just glowing in this green color. So my first thought is, I want to be out in the sun. So I went outside, I sat in a comfortable chair, just relaxed, taking in the sun. I took off my shoes so that I could be barefoot on the grass. And that is huge. For just integration is just allowing just the elements to kind of bring you back, like bring that, like stabilize that excess energy. You're grounding any excess energy. You're the sun helps you to integrate your present in your life. You're allowing these energies to kind of work through you. So a lot of the times, like I can only speak for myself of course, but I was very action based, meaning more tuning into the masculine. Because my whole ever since I could remember, I was always shown you gotta go. Like anything that you want in life, you gotta go get it. You gotta go get it. But it's like, when does that take a toll on you? And I'll tell you guys, when it takes a ton toll. It takes the toll when you have so much that you just automatically your body starts shutting down. And we're talking about like if you get, if you're over stimulated to the point where you're not integrating, you could get sick, you could feel exhausted, you could feel like you don't have enough sleep. There's so many you can feel with no energy. You can feel like you just like it's just you exhaust yourself. Because we have to understand that we have a human body that needs to adapt to these energies. And in order for that to happen, we need to give it time. I also found out that when I traveled a lot, the reason why I could do so much in one thing was because I was always around ocean. And I just learned something that is really fascinating to me is that when you go into the ocean, the ocean's all about like releasing, like releasing overages. So that's what it helps you with. So if you're integrating, it's a great way to just get Those overages out. And I relied so much on the ocean. And I'm like, I haven't been to the ocean in, like, over a year now, and I really miss it. And part of this, I think that we, even though we feel like we know everything, we really don't. And we're aligned to live these experiences. And what I'm being taught now is how to listen more to my body, how to be present, and how to honor my body more by really understanding what integration is in, how to apply it towards myself. Because clearly, as I said, we all have different things to work on. But this is a huge one for me. [00:15:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Because if you're trying to harmonize the spirit and the body, then doing things that are good for the body is definitely something that should be on your checklist. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:11] Speaker B: Right. So like, the. The grounding with the grass and going to the water, it's the magnetism of the water that's very helpful for people. Living water is always a good thing. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:25] Speaker A: Another thing that was really interesting that, like, has totally shifted the way I thought, like Lola said is, like, sometimes we get so caught up in, like, oh, my gosh, if I just continue to do this, I'm gonna get there. Like, I'm just gonna get there faster. But you never even know where there was to begin with because you realize life is about constant expansion. So that means it's a spiral. There's no end. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Yeah, there's no end. [00:15:50] Speaker A: But one thing that I do have to say that I don't even think I've given you enough credit for that I have really been practicing and has changed my life is she said to me, mastery is balance. Now, I don't think I've heard, Like, my ears weren't ready to hear that before. So she probably did say that before, but for the first time, it made sense because in order to balance that energy, you have to integrate. And that's part of, like, just having to have a balanced thing. Without an like, perfection doesn't exist. We get tricked that it exists, but it really doesn't. But balance exists, and you can definitely feel when you are balanced with things. So thank you for that. But it also made so much sense to me and. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Right. So go, go, go is not balanced. [00:16:42] Speaker A: No, go, go, go is not balanced. It would be the same as, like, if you went the complete opposite. If you just wanted to lay in. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Bed on wait for something to happen, the angel's going to appear or whatever, and then your body atrophies. You can't do anything. [00:16:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yes, we got to have a balance with everything. We got a balance with our diet, our balance with the things. Yep. And what we feed into our minds too. Because if we're feeding constant, like, things are like, really violent and stuff, of course we're not going to have violence. Then we're going to get more anxiety and we're just going to. Our bodies are going to act up more. So I also ran into this online. I ran into this. It's called Key Principles of Spiritual Integration. So there was like four of them listed, and I even shared it with Lola because I thought it was, like, really cool. So we're going to share this with you guys too, and kind of break it down into, I guess, a simpler format, for a lack of a better word. So the first thing it's was listed was inner alignment. So it says this involves aligning one's thoughts, emotions and actions with one's spiritual values and beliefs. [00:17:57] Speaker B: I think that's a fine line for all of us, you know, as we're changing our value system. How do I have the courage to maybe create a benevolent boundary, for example? [00:18:10] Speaker A: Yep. [00:18:11] Speaker B: It's not a. I mean, some of it seems very easy and falls into place, and some of it, because we're so accustomed to the old way, is a real challenge to step into the new, isn't it? [00:18:22] Speaker A: I was very challenged this last weekend, I'm not gonna lie. Because we all have different friends. And the thing is, friends become acquaintances when you're no longer really in alignment with. So you find that it's almost like life keeps separating you. Right. And then you have these social gatherings where all of a sudden, like, people are there. And then you realize why you. That your alignment is so different, but at the same time, it's not that you're judging them because you understand that they're on a different journey than you. But what you're realizing is that these are certain traits that I no longer resonate with with, because they're no longer who I am. They're no longer an expression of who I am. Now in the present, however, I once thought that way, acted that way, did the same things and learned from it. And that's really what it is, is this isn't a path of, oh, I'm getting to a level where I'm so beyond anyone else. It's not at all. In fact, it's getting to a path where you become more compassionate and empathic because you have been there. So you know those roads. It's not about judging Others, but instead seeing. And then if this is the cool thing, which people probably think, like, this will be weird coming from me, but being a Scorpio is one of those things I look forward to being triggered because if I get triggered, and that means there's still a magnetic thing that's affecting me, because I can't blame the world. Whatever feelings I'm going through, and if there's something bothering me, it's something within me that's being activated, that I need to look close, take a closer look to it. And I'm not going to blame others and be like, you need to act this way in order for me to be okay. Because we can't do that. Could you imagine us going into the world and having an expectation of everyone needs to act certain ways so we don't get triggered? [00:20:26] Speaker B: That's an unhealed person. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, how many times do we see that acting up too? How many times do we see people getting bothered by others because apparently they're not getting. They're not acting the way other people want? In reality, the only control we have is over ourselves. And. But emotions are great pointers of where things we haven't that. Where there's a point where we can heal more. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And that, that's why I said at the beginning of the. Of the show, I'm not. I'm not feeling my most awake and because I'm in the midst of integration, because I. I did something last night to clear something, which you guys have heard me talking about before in the podcast, if you've listened before, which is my absolute distaste and dislike of Paris, France. So I've been diving deep into that so I can heal it. And I am a little bit out of it today as a result, which means I need to integrate. I need to get this spiritual shift into my material body in a way that's harmonious and comfortable and balanced. [00:21:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:34] Speaker B: So I accept the reason why I'm not feeling like the brightest color crayon in the box today. I understand the process. And so if there's times you feel a little off kilter, that might be because you've had a big spiritual shift like I did yesterday. And your body, like I said earlier, you need that time to integrate. You need that time to be in the feminine receiving mode rather than the active mode. I just saw something here when I was looking at the Internet again about integration. It was just real simple, but it just basically said something that is so simple we should have said it earlier. [00:22:11] Speaker A: What is It. [00:22:12] Speaker B: It's moving from your head to your heart. [00:22:14] Speaker A: Oh, I like that too. It's simple, but it totally makes sense. But you also touch on something really. Like there was in the list. It's the next one on the list, which it says self reflection and honesty. So turning inward with courage and honesty to face aspects of oneself that have been avoided. And she's speaking her truth, obviously, and she's self reflecting on why. Why did I have this? So I'm going to search this because this is something that's bothering me. And a lot of the times, at least, I found I can only use myself as an example. Whenever I question things that didn't quite align with me, I always seem to get in trouble growing up because. Oh, yeah, that's kind of what happens. [00:23:04] Speaker B: Because all your family wants is things to be so. [00:23:08] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:23:08] Speaker B: No bumps, you know, quiet kids, well behaved, no questions. Exactly. Trust me, I'm a Gemini thinker. [00:23:17] Speaker A: Yep. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Well, if you had like, why is it like this? Why? Why? And then you add a little sprinkle. [00:23:24] Speaker A: Of like religious programming. You had a little sprink. Sprinkle of social. Social programming. And it just gets a little bit crazier. But I was telling a friend over the weekend that it's interesting to me how people look at spirituality because a lot of times when people hear the word spirituality, they think of some sort of religion based practice. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Yeah. That's how we're trained. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's the complete opposite. It's. It's an inner exploration to see what things. What truly aligns with you and what doesn't in everyone here, if they're bluntly honest with themselves and being present. You know that there's so many things that you were taught when you were little that this is the way they are. And then as you grow, you realize this no longer aligns with me. And something as simple as that. And that's part of being honest with you, with you in reflecting on things. Because it wouldn't come up unless it needs to be healed. You need to be looking at it from a observer perspective instead of. So like pointing finger and expecting having a certain expectation of yourself or others. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And it doesn't have to be deep, deep, deep spiritual. Like me trying to look at a past life in Paris so I can heal. Can be as simple as our concepts about marriage. [00:24:57] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:24:57] Speaker B: You know, we have that happily ever after, boy meets girl. This is going to fulfill your life story that we've all grown up because of fairy tales. So then people get married and find Out. It's a lot of give and take and compromise. [00:25:16] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:25:16] Speaker B: It's not always happily ever after unless you like give and take and compromise. So it doesn't. It can be at a mundane level too, where you're. You have these shifts that you're integrating the new concepts. Like, oh, it isn't what I thought. I thought it was since I was four years old. [00:25:35] Speaker A: Yep. So, for example, one thing that really happened today, I was like, lola, let's go to this place. It's like a bagel place that I want. I want you to check out because they make their own bagels, which is up on division. I forgot the name of the place, but either way would be. Would be bagels. Would be bagels. And it's in Mount Vernon, Washington. Anyways, great bagels, great sandwiches, we definitely recommend them. But we stepped out and I see the house on the corner, which we used. My husband and I used to own that house. And that house was really interesting to me because growing up, my dad always said, oh, you're nothing in this world unless you have a house and you have something to claim for or whatever. And that was his way of looking at life. And that was the way that he was programmed to look at things. But the truth is, when we got that house, first of all, that house was way too big for us. It was just me and my husband. We're talking about a three bedroom, two bath, two floor house with a yard. But when we got it, we realized. I realized two things. One, that I truly felt from a heart space, as it was a temporary home. Second, I wanted it so bad because my dad told me my entire life that you weren't complete until you had a home. Then I had to realize that that was his dream, not mine. And then it's just interesting how you have to adapt these ideas that they're not necessarily coming from a bad place. It's just. It's a program place that it's like there's an expectation of you supposed to function this way. If you don't have this, you're not complete. [00:27:14] Speaker B: When you had that insight, I bet it felt almost like getting a punch in the gut because it's like, oh, oh, yeah, it's not working. [00:27:28] Speaker A: Exactly. And it was weird because my husband, when I told him, I said we had some stuff happened and it was right in the middle of COVID So we decided the best thing was to sell the house and kind of like later on find something that was more. They really align with us. But my husband was like, Very devastated. And the complete opposite, because he was really programmed to hold on to this. Materialistic things. This is like a metal that you're showing in society that you're like. Not that I'm saying it's wrong to own a house. Great for you if you do. But what I'm saying is, if it's something that's not really aligned to you and then you're just doing it to please, please somebody else, the odds are you're never going to be happy about it once you actually do yourself searching and go deep inside and really realize that that wasn't your dream. For me, that was my story. [00:28:21] Speaker B: I want to give some credit to your husband because he did integrate this information. You know, it had to be at some kind of etheric level. But he brought it to Earth and. And he accepted it. [00:28:34] Speaker A: Yep. And then he asked me. I just. It was so weird because we sold the house and you, like, had, like, no feelings about it. I was like. It was interesting because I had told him how I felt about it and why I just wanted to shift out of that. But he was still stuck with the feelings too. So I was like, yeah, I could move past the feelings because I realized the feelings weren't my feelings to have that house in the first place. Place. But this is just giving one example of the many examples that they are of things that can change in your life. [00:29:11] Speaker B: And I'm kind of relating integration right now, too, to something we talked about when we talked about grounding before, you know, because another thing that needs to be integrated and that I'm guilty of. See, we like to tell you the people, our pitfalls so you guys can learn from them. [00:29:27] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:29:28] Speaker B: Is that I just love being in that buzzy energy of the spiritual plane. It's like a little contact high. [00:29:35] Speaker A: It is buzzy, buzzy, buzzy. [00:29:36] Speaker B: Fun, fun, fun. And so it's been very hard for me to willingly do what we're talking about, which is integrating the spirit into the material world, which is the balance also that we're talking about. So for years and years and years, I kind of resisted grounding because I like that little energy high. But now I understand I can't be there the whole time. That our mission is really is to bring that spiritual energy to Earth. [00:30:06] Speaker A: Yep. And then we have. Our next thing on the list is commitment and discipline. Developing. Developing a committed commitment. Sorry. To one spiritual practice and engaging in regular practices that support spiritual growth. [00:30:24] Speaker B: That. That's a tough one to get into. Doing it regularly. It's kind of like, you know how it takes three weeks to change a habit? [00:30:31] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:30:32] Speaker B: I've. I talk about being guilty. I've started something and then not kept it up for the full weeks. Three weeks. And dropped it completely and forgotten about it. [00:30:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:42] Speaker B: And then, you know, two years later, I go, hey, yeah, that's a good idea. Oh, yeah, I used to do that. Why did I stop? I mean, there's certain things I do do regularly, but it's kind of like, whoa, I was working on that, and it just evaporated into the ether. So it does take discipline and the willpower. The willpower of the magus. Yeah. To say, you're going to do this anyway. [00:31:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And you know what's so interesting as you were saying that I was like, what. What stuff have I integrated on my spiritual practice that I must do every morning? Otherwise I'm way off. And, like, my first thing that comes up to mind is grounding. I have to ground in the mornings. And we're not talking about just a regular little grounding. Like, I dedicate some time to really feel grounded because it's the only way where I can just get. And then I remove excess energy and I usually use, like, a sage, palo santo, whatever you prefer. And I clear out any excess energies. I remove any cords I call my power back from. Like I always say, I call my power back, cleanse and recalibrated for any place that I've given it to and any place that have taken or person that has taken from me. So those are practices that I do every single day. In this weekend, I went on this camping trip, and the next day in the morning, you wake up and you're like, in complete, complete different place. No sage, no palo santo. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. Your routine's disrupted. [00:32:22] Speaker A: And so I did get grounded because I actually slept on a tent. And it was really good. Like, my back felt amazing. I also got extra clearing from a little friend of ours, which is funny. And one of the episodes we talk about Sasquatch. So I definitely felt the Sasquatch energy present there, but I was just grateful to be out in nature, to enjoy nature, to. I'm. I'm finding that I'm aligning more to that my natural body craves connection with. With nature. So yesterday I was craving the sun. I went to the sun. I've been craving a body of water. So I need to find a good body of water where I can just submerge my feet. Because we all know, let's be real, you're not going to find a Tropical beach in Washington. I hate to say. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's even harder in Nebraska. [00:33:11] Speaker A: But there's probably rivers. So rivers is running water. [00:33:14] Speaker B: Might be some caves or something with a little lagoon in it. [00:33:18] Speaker A: That's true too. But it's just interesting. Like, all the. The things that we keep, like practicing. Because that's. For me, that's what centers me. If I don't do that, my day will become hectic. Will be really hectic. I also like to do armor, which is another thing too. Like, before I go into public places and stuff. And there's a differences between armoring and shielding. And that's one thing that I really understood is when you are shielding your. Your. Yes, you're protecting yourself from our energy. [00:33:53] Speaker B: Spending a lot of energy, and you're not. [00:33:56] Speaker A: And you're not allowing those good energies to come into and nourish you. So when you armor, you're protecting yourself against things that don't align with you, but you're allowing good energy to come in. [00:34:05] Speaker B: I. I always describe it to people, like, the difference. You go to construction site, you should put your hard hat on. But just that simple. Instead of trying to like, oh, God, gotta get into warrior gear. I got a posture. It's like, no, just put your. Just think of it as putting your ears. Safety hat on. [00:34:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Oh, I had a thought while you were talking. And because I'm. I'm not. I'm integrating and my mind's not sharp. It just went away way. [00:34:31] Speaker A: Well, it will come back if it needs to be heard. And then we have our number four thing. Maybe this will bring it out. Connection to something larger. Recognizing one's connection to a higher power, nature or other people, and fostering sense of belonging and purpose. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Well, that's pretty much the spiritual journey, isn't it? [00:34:53] Speaker A: Yeah. But I think if we have to break it down in simpler forms, it's just finding what connects you to that divinity, that higher power, whatever you believe in, in what really, where you feel the connection. I'm finding the connection has really definitely been with nature. And for so long, I heard that term as above, so below. And it just. It like, it almost like, didn't make sense. Now I use it even as part of my grounding. Like, I go in, I connect with the stars, and then I think of, like, so below to connect with the rocks, with stones. And that's when I'm grounding and I feel extra grounded as well as extra balance. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Well, but it goes beyond that because there's always something in nature that reflects A spiritual concept. [00:35:44] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:35:44] Speaker B: You know, like, you talked about water being pure, and that's purification and flow, you know? So that can apply to spirituality and to emotions and things like that too. Too. So there's always when you start realizing, oh, gosh, there's an example of what this spiritual concept is right here in nature. It could be an ant hill. [00:36:02] Speaker A: Exactly. Oh, and then I saved two things too, which I was so proud, you guys. So they were doing a fire. And, like, the fire element is so powerful. And I just love staying away at the fire. But I saw one of the logs. There was a slug. So I went and I grabbed a leaf and I asked the plant that I was going to grab a leaf before I took it out. And I grabbed the slug and I put it back to nature. And then there was a little spider. And then I saved the spider too. And everybody was like. Because I. I come from a group of friends that actually care for animals. So they were really happy because they were like, yes, you saved them. But I'm like, this is just a common practice that I would hope that everyone's practicing and just. Because when you go into spirituality, you learn that we are all made out of energy. Even the smallest little bug, it's still part of us. We are all energy. So if you can and saved a poor, innocent animal, like, why not? There's nothing to it. But on the. And then the connection with something larger too is when I. Like yesterday when I went and closed my eyes and just enjoyed the sun. It does it. Like, you really do feel that connection with that higher power. Like, you feel like you're one with everything. There's nothing like feeling that full connection of you're in the present and you feel connected to everything. I think that that's one thing that's been. That's been really coming. Yep. That's been really coming up to me is, where do I find my peace? Where do I find my connection? How do I establish that connection? And this is another thing that's really big for me is I owe myself that connection. [00:37:57] Speaker B: Ooh, you deserve it. You're worthy of it. That's a good one. Because we don't think we're worthy of so many things. [00:38:05] Speaker A: Isn't that so crazy? And that's like. It's some. You guys. It's something as simple as, like, going out in the sun and closing your eyes and just admitting to yourself, I deserve this. I deserve a connection because I am part of divinity. I'm part of that light. I'm part of Source, but it's a path, for sure. I think that a lot of us are always in their different parts of our journey, and sometimes it takes a while before we fully understand, like, how we're not any better or worse. We just are in that concept and stuff in. I think that the reason why we started this podcast, too, was because a lot of the times we get shaken up a little bit at times. Yesterday, for example, I took part in the conversation with my own mother, and she triggered me a little bit because there's certain things of. We set up boundaries, not as walls, but as of. We deserve to have boundaries, to be respected, to be cared for, to be taken in consideration, I guess, for lack of a better word. And my mother said something that completely kind of was like, very controlling, and it just did not feel right. And I got really frustrated. But the thing is, I was in the middle of a speaker phone call because she called my aunt, which is her sister, and it was just not the time. But I did come home, and I was frustrated. So I share the story with my husband. And then after, I just relaxed, went outside, grounded, took some sun in. I felt so much better. And that's just the regular practices, the spiritual practices we get to do, we're all going to get triggered eventually because there's. There's, like, always going to be. As long as there's something within us that throws a magnetic charge to something that bothers you outside, you're going to feel it, but it's not the fact that you're feeling it. It's the fact that you're acknowledging something in coming to it and being your true, honest, authentic self and seeing where it's laying on you so that. That way you can look a little bit further. Anything that triggers us is really just pointing at something that is within us, that needs. That still needs work. I had a situation, too, with I was healing something, and spirit came and said, the shadows you see within yourself or you see in others is just. It's. It's just light that's waiting to be uncovered. But it's up to us to find that light within those, to understand those parts of us that we see as shadows, to heal those parts and to understand why, once upon a time, they seem dark to us. I don't know if you want to elaborate on that. [00:41:18] Speaker B: I'm a Gemini. I know all about light and dark. [00:41:22] Speaker A: But also the light and dark can be translated in so many ways. It's like all about balance. [00:41:26] Speaker B: You learn not to be afraid of the dark. [00:41:28] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:41:29] Speaker B: You just learn to say, yeah, I got a dark side. But, you know, I try to explain that to people because there's a Tarot card is, you know, called the Lovers in the Tarot Deck, and it is about the light and shadow and also the Queen of Wands. There's a certain image on the Queen of Wands where it's depicting a leopard, which is a symbol of light and shadow because of the dark spots. And I tell people, well, you know, the shadow isn't anything to be afraid of. It's something to shine a light on so you're aware of it so that you can balance and harmonize it. Mastery. Right. But you don't get rid of your shadow, because you need it sometimes. And the example I always use is, especially to women, if you're home with the kids and a stranger walks in the door, are you going to be all love and light? I don't know. What would you do if you were that mother Amaral? Would your dark side come out? [00:42:25] Speaker A: Well, yes. And I would expect my dark side to come out. [00:42:27] Speaker B: Yes. So we're not trying to say the dark is bad. It's just that part of you that when you know it's there and you know it's part of you that is under control and that you can use it if necessary, it has a whole different aspect to it. [00:42:46] Speaker A: And a lot of the times when we see the dark as something we feared, it's not the dark itself that you're fearing. You're fearing something that that dark is trying to point at. [00:42:56] Speaker B: You know what we're really fearing? We're fearing that if we shine a light on it, other people will see it. [00:43:02] Speaker A: That's true, too. [00:43:03] Speaker B: It's what we're ashamed of, usually. [00:43:05] Speaker A: Yep. [00:43:06] Speaker B: That we have to learn, why am I ashamed of it? And then learn to give it some love. I understand where this wounding came from. I understand where this concept came from. Let me shine some light on this. Send you a little positive energy so that I don't feel like I need to hide you all the time. [00:43:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:28] Speaker B: I mean, like. Like something. Like, you know, even something as simple as crying. You know, a lot of people are taught to hide that. [00:43:37] Speaker A: Yes. Especially growing up. [00:43:39] Speaker B: So. Especially. And I don't want to stereotype, but I think it's still true that. Especially males. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:45] Speaker B: So when we learn that there's no shame to crying, it's actually cathartic for you, and it releases chemicals that need to come out of your body physically to help you heal, then we should be Embracing it. Right. So that all that is is shining a light on crying. Right. When you realize, okay, it's actually good for me, not only emotionally, but also physically. So we just shone a light on it, and that can take some of the shame and stigma away from it. [00:44:15] Speaker A: Yep. It's just really interesting to me what, what we learned. It becomes deeper for us because we see things through the surface. And when we start a spiritual journey, we start to challenge not just seeing things from the surface view, instead go deeper with things, you know? [00:44:39] Speaker B: And that brings up another topic. Where there is great light, there will be great darkness. [00:44:45] Speaker A: Yes. [00:44:46] Speaker B: Right. So all these people you might be looking at, like, oh, my gosh, he's so advanced. Look at this guru. Oh, he shines so bright. Oh, he's such a mystical wonder. He's got an equally dark, dark, dark side. It's just he is not allowing it to do anything other than harmonize. [00:45:05] Speaker A: Yeah. It's. It's interesting because it's like almost when I see the word, like, ego death, like, oh, you can't wait to reach your ego death. And I get, like, what they're trying to say, but it's just the wording that I don't like, because you can't kill your ego. Your ego is going to be with you for the rest of your life. However, you want to become friends with your ego. You want to embody your ego. You want to understand why your ego is there. And the first thing you have to understand about the ego is that it's just his whole thing behind it is it's trying to keep you from safe. Your body safe, your body safe. [00:45:43] Speaker B: It doesn't care about your spirituality. It's just trying to keep your body safe. [00:45:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And so in a way, it's trying to do something. But also in a way, if you're listening to your ego, you're never going to really move forward, per se, or, like, do things are going to shift your life. I saw this saying that I like. I loved what it said. It said, before you spiritually awaken, you're just drunk on your ego. And it kind of makes sense. [00:46:11] Speaker B: Aren't we all? [00:46:13] Speaker A: Yes. And that's like. It makes so much sense to me that I'm like, oh, yes, I can definitely claim that one. [00:46:20] Speaker B: I think if you look at yourself honestly, I think every person could claim that. [00:46:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:25] Speaker B: But we don't know any better. [00:46:26] Speaker A: That's true. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah. It's not until we start shining lights and trying to integrate in balance that we learn that. Yeah. I think I think bringing up the ego is a really good example of integration. I'm glad. I'm glad that came up. [00:46:38] Speaker A: Yeah. When the ego, there's so much sides to it because it sneaks around. For the longest time, I look at the ego like it was so, like, oh, no, the ego is, like, lurking again, and it's going to make me feel this way. Way. But then Lola introduced me to another way calling the ego. And after that, I could never take the ego seriously. She calls it the barking Chihuahua. Now, imagine that concept, because so me, when I first started on my spiritual awakening, there was a lot of times where the ego would come in because I was doing major shifts in each time. It would really use kind of my emotions against me because it wants to keep me safe. So it's like bringing out these things, like, if you continue, this could happen. And I would always look at the ego, like, oh, man. It's, like, really sneaking around. And each time it comes to me, it's even like, in a weirder, more, like, aggressive way and more emotional, and it's affecting me even more. But then once I heard the concept of the barking Chihuahua, that's really what it is. It's like you have the power. You just giving the power to your ego, and that's why you think it's so big. But once you actually step into your role as, like, you're coming with me, however I make the decisions, it becomes that barking Chihuahua. [00:48:05] Speaker B: And, well, it means becomes the trained barking Chihuahua. [00:48:10] Speaker A: The trained barking Chihuahua. [00:48:13] Speaker B: With less barking. [00:48:14] Speaker A: With a lot less barking. [00:48:17] Speaker B: But it'll still bark. That's its job. It's still going to find a way to. It'll find the slightest little opening to, you know, Are you sure you want to do that? You're not good enough. You know, always good to. It's always going to challenge you. But then you learn to laugh about it when you think of it as a chihuahua. Right. You. [00:48:36] Speaker A: That's true. [00:48:37] Speaker B: Oh, you silly little Chihuahua. Oh, you almost got me there. That was a good one. You. I was close to going over the edge there, but I caught it. [00:48:45] Speaker A: Yeah. It's just interesting how much. Oh, and I just had a train of thought, too, and then, like, it totally went away from my. [00:48:54] Speaker B: I'm sorry. [00:48:55] Speaker A: It's okay. [00:48:57] Speaker B: I spoke over you. [00:48:58] Speaker A: No, you're totally good. It was just literally, like, there was a good thought, too, and I just can't believe I just totally forgot about it. Oh, that's what it is. So I just. I gave a little piece of wisdom to one of my friends, I said, anytime you can hear thoughts in your head, it's never you. However, you can choose to act upon your thoughts, and then that's going to determine the action that's going to come or how you're going to feel about things. But you are never your thoughts. You're the one listening to your thoughts. When you take action on your thoughts is when they solidify and turn into something. And that took me a long time to understand. [00:49:48] Speaker B: That you're the observer of your thoughts. [00:49:49] Speaker A: Yes, exactly. Because so many times, like. Well, especially because this. I come from this background, so I'm not putting it down. I'm just saying I went through it, which is the martyr and victimized role. It's like all these negative thoughts is like, it's going against me. It's like putting me down. It's making me feel this way. But then it's like you pause and you say, well, how much of your energy and how much do you resonate with that story? And how many. How many times are you saying that story about yourself? And that is, like, really powerful to really break it down into, like, things that are truly you and things that aren't truly you. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah. That's why you have to start challenging Do I am statements? Never. I am not statements. [00:50:40] Speaker A: Yep. [00:50:42] Speaker B: It's. It's a constant. I don't want to say challenge because we. We actually like it, but it's. It's like a game. It's a game. It. You just got to watch yourself. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Yep. I say it's a constant understanding of evolution because it never sets. As. The more you expand, the more you're going to look at things in a different way. But when you're looking at things differently, you just have to look at them as, what is this trying to show me? What is this teaching me? And if it's not serving you, guess what? It's time to let it go. A lot easier said than done, especially. [00:51:24] Speaker B: If it's a concept. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Yep. [00:51:26] Speaker B: I mean, sometimes it's easier to let go of things than concepts. Oh, my computer's making noises. But we're going to keep going. We're going to keep going. We're not stopping. It must be integrating all this energy. [00:51:42] Speaker A: Yes. [00:51:43] Speaker B: So integration getting back to a good. I guess what we wanted to really emphasize here in the last few minutes is that it's about marrying the spirit and the body. And if the body needs downtime, then it. Then please honor that. That's kind of basically my most important message about integrating what. What Would you say you'd like to add to that? [00:52:16] Speaker A: I think you sum it up in a really good basic way. But it is. It's like as you're integrating, it's a time of reflection. So I would say is a deep look within the mirror, in the mirror of yourself, of old behaviors to new behaviors, old ways of looking at things to new ways of looking at things. I think that part of honoring ourselves is fully seeing the why once upon a time you used to think a certain way. Why once upon a time you did, you took a certain action. But I think it's also about finding that forgiveness, that none of us are perfect, that you did the best you could at those times, that you don't hold that against you, that you forgive those involved, meaning like who. Whoever it was that introduced you to those thoughts in the first place. And you also forgive the situation of whatever it could have been. And that's almost like finishing up by sealing the. The true meaning of integrating everything. But that's really powerful. And that's something that sometimes we can struggle with. And I can honestly say I can struggle with. Last night I had a dream literally that I woke up and like full on tears and pain. And it's like I wake up and I'm like, okay, I'm presented with this. That's altering my nervous system, that's altering my emotions. How do I come back to that balance point? How do I go back to zero point? And that is what true balancing and mastery is about. Back in the day, we would go by emotions. Imagine, picture yourself in that time where you had no control over your emotions. And picture yourself between that time and who you are now so that you can acknowledge the growth that you've done and give yourself credit for. For the amount of evolution, the amount of lessons that you've learned. And then you just pick up the pieces and you move on. And even if the worst happens, meaning you act upon being frustrated and you do something that you don't feel too proud of, you can always go back and forgive yourself and ask for forgiveness. If you did like go off on someone or you did something that you didn't feel too great about. But that's what this whole path of spirituality is about. It's about becoming a best, the. A new version of ourselves, a more healed version of ourselves. [00:55:11] Speaker B: Well, it's actually, I think, you know, kabbalistically be more remembering who we really are. [00:55:16] Speaker A: Yes. [00:55:17] Speaker B: Behind all of the training. And we are connected spirit to earth, earth to spirit, which is what we're Talking about with integration. [00:55:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's not. I get it. You know, you want to say it's the new, but actually it's the new, but it's also the original. [00:55:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:40] Speaker B: Of me. So it's kind of paradoxical. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I. I like the description of. As we go through life, we can pick up many masks because those masks are what we hide, who we truly are to cater to others and to fit in. And we all do it. We've all done it. It's natural to do that. But what. It's when it becomes no longer natural. It's when it's no longer resonating with you to the point where you feel uncomfortable wearing that mask still. And that's when change starts happening because you. That's like literally the. The part that starts that spark of. There's got to be something better than this. And I. No longer resonating with this. And. [00:56:28] Speaker B: Yeah. The mask starts to feel too artificial. Yeah. But there's still masks we wear. Like. Like I always say, you know, I behave differently in a restaurant eating my spaghetti than I would at home eating my spaghetti. You know, so it's not that masks are necessarily all bad, but there's a point where the. When the mask. Mask. Masks. Isn't. Doesn't work with what you're uncovering. Which is the authentic you. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:56:51] Speaker B: Then the. The dissonance is too much. [00:56:54] Speaker A: Yes. [00:56:55] Speaker B: And that's why you need to integrate. Everything comes back to integration, doesn't it? [00:57:00] Speaker A: That's why it's. It's just integration is such a huge part. It's like literally the. The after. Like after you do the whole releasing and everything, it's the getting back to feeling like your rediscovered version of yourself. That was always there, but you're refining it. [00:57:18] Speaker B: Isn't that funny? It was always there. So it's just a matter of everybody knowing that. That the authentic you is there. You're finding that probably you wouldn't be listening to this podcast if you weren't starting to experience that on an everyday basis. So good for you. Good for you, audience. [00:57:39] Speaker A: And thank you so much for listening to us again. We're put this podcast together to help others during the. During their spiritual path. The spiritual awakening path, I should say. And we're honored that you're listening to us. Please share with people you know that that could benefit from this podcast. And thank you so much for listening. [00:58:02] Speaker B: Thanks and happy integrating. [00:58:04] Speaker A: Yes. [00:58:05] Speaker B: Bye. [00:58:05] Speaker A: Bye.