Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Woowooville, the next stop on your spiritual journey, hosted by two fellow travelers who found a soul connection on the path to higher consciousness.
Our goal is to help you navigate the choppy waters you're likely to encounter on the spiritual path by sharing our experiences with you each week.
Join us as we spill the tea on what it is like to wake up to your authentic self.
Hello, I am Lola Singer, and I am here with my favorite co host.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Hello, I am Ameril, and we have
[00:00:33] Speaker A: a topic today that I personally think is of interest to pretty much anybody new to the spiritual path, and that is Lightworkers. Are you a lightworker? And if you are, what kind of lightworker are you?
There's a lot of them, aren't there?
[00:00:51] Speaker B: Yes, there's quite a bit.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: What we did is, independently, Amaral and I pulled up information about the types of lightworkers, and we found that they overlap a little bit. And then there were some things that were on his list that weren't on mine and vice versa. So we just thought we'd address them all because I think your list is good. I think my list is good, and we'll just have a very thorough understanding of lightworkers and how you might fit in. Anything you want to say about that?
[00:01:28] Speaker B: No, just I guess we should mention.
Did we mention the name of the.
Of the episode?
[00:01:35] Speaker A: Well, I said it as a question, but you can tell them officially what it is.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: Yes. So the name of our episode today is what kind of Lightworker are you?
[00:01:45] Speaker A: Yes.
So when I was new to the spiritual journey, and that's what this podcast is for, we want to help people who, you know, who are new by sharing with you what. What we experienced early on. And I had not heard the term lightworker before I got caught up on the spiritual path, and I think it's one that gets thrown around a lot.
And early on it was like, well, what exactly is that?
Right. Did you feel that way, too? Yeah.
Yeah. So they're archetypes, basically. Yeah, they're.
How do we say? Characters.
They're characteristics you have that fit an archetype. I guess that's the better way to say it.
So what better way to address it than just to go through the list of what the lightworkers are and see if you can relate? If you can, you're probably that archetype. And one of the things we figured out, too, is, like, it's not mutually exclusive. You could be more than one.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: Oh, yes. Especially because that was the one Thing that as I was, like, going through the list and reading it, I realized I'm like, oh, I have some of those traits. I have some of those traits as well. So you could have many connected, different ones, because that's just who you are. I don't.
[00:03:06] Speaker A: I was gonna say we'll probably share a little bit about personal experiences, about certain ones on the list, too.
[00:03:11] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: And maybe mention friends, but not by name.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Of.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: Of. Of the ones we recognize with those traits.
[00:03:19] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Oh, no, you're good. And one of the things that it's really interesting, too, is that I think that sometimes when you're starting out, it's just there's so much information that you. A lot of the times are like, I don't even know what it is as far as, like, what. When you hear the word light workers and then hear all these things, it's never really in a way where it kind of touches on the types that they are, a description that they are. So I think this will be really helpful for those of you that are kind of. Even those that are wondering, like, what the heck is even a lightworker? If you haven't heard that before, and even if you have, I think that as we were going through and sharing the information, we realized, like, oh, okay. Like, we had. I guess we hadn't really thought about. About it that way before. So either way, I think it's going to be a great eye opener. So.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: All right, let's dive in and start with your list.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: All right, so the 12 types of lightworkers. So first one on my list is grid workers and gatekeepers.
[00:04:23] Speaker A: Okay, let's just go one by one.
[00:04:25] Speaker B: Okay, that's actually one.
[00:04:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, because you're one of those.
So I wanted to pause there because you certainly are an expert on what it's like to be a grid worker, but that's another term that you never hear before you're on the spiritual path. So what do you want to tell people about that?
[00:04:41] Speaker B: So I didn't know I was a grid worker. And I actually, funny enough, I was doing grid work already without even realizing it when I realized it just really came in. So, like a natural thing to do. So grid worker, as we know, the Earth has grids and PowerPoints and ley lines and meridians. Ley lines and meridians. And those sacred sites, they weren't just built randomly, they were strategically placed. Yes.
In those points. So a grid worker goes to those sites or goes into different points of it and what energetically they're drawn to it. And you first feel like, oh, I'm going to this place because I really want to check out. I've always had.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: You just feel like you have the travel bug. You don't even know you're a light worker.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: And you travel there because you're like, something is calling me really strong to that place. And. And you show up and you realize it wasn't a coincidence. But at first, you're just, like, connecting energetically, so it feels great. And you're like, just thinking, like, oh, wow, this was, like, a great experience.
But then you start noticing that certain things start, I guess, coming up for you that are very.
I'm not gonna say strange. I'm just gonna say they just awaken parts of you that they weren't awakened yet. An example. Everywhere I've traveled, I've always witnessed my me living there in another lifetime and being part of it. And, like, literally, I see myself, like, literally in those places.
I felt people that were related to me.
I see certain areas and I never been to. And I just feel, like, so connected. And, like, I've just recognize that area, like, but more in an energetic way.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: It's like a frequency match.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: Yes.
And so the first one that really got me to open up was one of my friends while we were doing a session.
She said, wait a second. You're like me. You act, You. You're able to activate pyramids. Because that's one of the things I connect a lot with, is pyramids. And how I connect with them is through my heart space. Like, it just allow my heart space to open up, and I connect with the energy of the pyramids, and it's almost as if it awakens things within me, but it also, like, connects with it. In the first experience I've ever had. Before I even know what a grid worker, before I even started my spiritual awakening, I went to Teotihuacan down in Mexico. And this is the time when you can go up the pyramids, because now you cannot walk up them. But I went to the pyramid of the sun, which is a very huge, huge pyramid. And I didn't even. I had said, I'm not gonna go, because I was like, that's way too high. There's too many steps and all this, putting all these excuses. And then next thing you know, my husband disappeared.
And my husband was actually not feeling well, and he was actually sick, and he was in line to get in, and I went supposedly to talk him out of it.
So When I got to him, I said, what are you doing? Like, you're not even feeling well. What if, like, you feel dizzy and you fall and it's like all these things? And he goes, I didn't come all the way here for my first time to have regrets. And I have to do this because otherwise I'm going to have regrets later on that I didn't do it.
And so I'm like, well, I have two options. I can either let him go by himself, but I'm like, no, I have to go with him because he. In case something was to happen to him, I would feel really guilty, so I'd go with him.
And what's crazy is that we get to the top of the pyramid, and in the center, there's this part where everybody goes around and puts their hand on this, like, hole that's supposedly energy, which that's also ridiculous because the whole pyramid itself is covered with energy. So there's no way one little hole is going to give you the energy.
But everybody's so focused on that. And my husband says, oh, you want to, like, you want me to make room for you so that you can go in and, like, touch the little hole? And I said, no, it's okay. I said, I'm just gonna back away because I'm kind of a little bit tired. It was a lot of steps, you guys.
And as I step back, everybody is, like, focused on going down. Nobody's looking up.
And all of a sudden, I see this big, huge blue light coming out of the pyramid that's like. It's almost like. The only way I can describe it is like my eyes took off this screen, and I was able to see this blue light coming out of the pyramid and going upward, like a full, energetic connection.
And then I saw two monarch butterflies come in, and they flew around the beam. They wouldn't cross it. They flew around. They landed on someone, probably. It's almost like they charge energy. And then they flew away.
And my jaw dropped, and I was like, what did I just witness? And that was a start for me. Of everything I've known up till now. There's something deeper that I have not found out about myself. I have not found out about things.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Was that when you realized you were a grid worker?
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Yes. Well, that was when I first had my first grid worker experience.
When I realized I was a grid worker was during the session with my friend, and she showed me how to connect to the pyramids and how to connect to the energy. And then after that, everywhere I traveled I connected with him and I connected to these sacred places. But it was just incredible, like how, for me, how I feel the energy when I go to those sacred places. It's like I become like, we're all. We talk about the oneness and we talk about all this energy and how we connect to it all.
But when you fully feel like you're part of that energy, it's just so incredible because it's just like, so big. But it's not over the top, overwhelming. It doesn't make your nervous system go crazy. Instead, it just takes you in this profound feeling of, I'm one with the energy here, so.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: Well, I.
I think you have had a very extreme example of a grid worker. I think we can roll it back a little bit further for most people because I don't think you actually have to be physically in the place to be a good worker. That's true, too.
[00:11:26] Speaker B: And I have heard about this.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Because there's people who are able to do distance work. They feel a strong light, a strong yearning to work with the energy of a place. And they might be, like, doing Reiki on it or just meditating on it or whatever it is. I don't think you always have to physically be in the space.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:11:46] Speaker A: To be a light work. I'm sorry, not light work. A grid worker. I just want to make that very clear to people. And, like, look at the Native Americans when they make medicine wheel grids, you know, so they could go to the physical places and make a, you know, a grid that goes thousands and thousands of miles, like our friend Rainbow Thunderheart did, or you could set up a small grid and imagine it radiating out.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: So I just wanted to make that clear too, to people because they're like, but I can't travel. I want to. Well, you know what? You can do it from your home if you really, really are exactly called to as a grid worker.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: And an example of this, too, is that sometimes, for example, there's chaos happening in grid points. And when people come together and they send energy, healing energy, which is like Reiki, which is like a connection type thing that also. It's distant healing that people can do.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: Yeah. And I would just like to give an examp from my life because it was not profound. I had this huge push. Everybody was seeing it, all my psychic friends, that I needed to go to New Orleans.
So when I quit my 3D job, that's the first thing I did. I went to New Orleans. I walked around it for three days. I said, I'm Tired of this place, now I want to go. But I was there for six days. I'd booked six days there thinking, oh, I'm going to. Something profound is going to happen, like with you. No, it didn't. All I did was walk around New Orleans and I was done in three days.
And I just wanted to go home after the three days.
So I think I was still a grid worker. I was doing something with that space, and I enjoyed parts of it. But when I was done, I was done.
[00:13:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And I didn't feel any need to be there anymore.
So it's kind of interesting how you had such a profound thing. And I was kind of like, well, okay, I think I'm done with this city.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
The other thing, too, that I want to mention is just when you are. When you are a grid worker, a lot of the times, at least I can only speak for myself. There's certain energy points in your body that become very intensified.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Wouldn't that be a mirror for your meridians and the meridians of Earth?
[00:13:58] Speaker B: Probably, yes, I would say so. But your third eye definitely becomes on, and it's like full on. It feels like it just warms up so much. And I think the only part where it was so overbearing, where it was, like, painful, was definitely Egypt at the Giza pyramids, because it just felt like it came on fire and I had to step back and I had to compose myself and I had to ground a lot.
And funny enough, by that time, my husband was pretty much has seen me be in other places. So he was kind of like, he's okay. He'll get himself back. You have to just leave him alone.
I was there with my family, my mother and my brother.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: So he. He knows. He doesn't know the term grid worker, but he knows what you're. You're up to.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: Okay. So I think we were pretty thorough on grid workers. So what's next?
[00:14:52] Speaker B: All right, it's guardians of the divine light.
So the role that they play is their core mission is to embody light and maintain a high frequency regardless of the chaos in the external world.
They act as anchors of stability during difficult times.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: You know, the first thing I thought of is that guy that's always smiling, you know, that always makes you feel good. And they might look like Joe regular guy on the street, but they always have that vibe.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Exactly. And you've. You've met these people, and they aren't
[00:15:32] Speaker A: even necessarily labeling themselves as spiritual. They just have that good feeling vibe.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: Yeah, they're the Ones that make you feel at peace. They're the ones like, oh, wow, what a great person, what a great guy, what a great woman I met. And they were so peaceful, and it's just infectious. And you'll see them. They'll be like, completely. It can be a complete chaotic atmosphere. AKA, when I was growing up, I saw them all the time.
Parties, example. Everybody's drinking and stuff, and they're just relaxed in their own little world.
But yet you want to talk to them, because it just feels good, too.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm thinking of something even more mundane, like, you know, the. The guy. Guy who cracks a joke in the grocery store line. You know, they. They. You see them in everyday life. And who. Who knew those were light workers?
[00:16:19] Speaker B: Right.
But it's like, I guess this is another thing that we're trying to bring out about the podcast itself and, like, kind of like take off the blind. They're everywhere. They're just like, maybe we don't. We didn't spot them before because we didn't knew.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: We just didn't know there was no label.
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: Okay. I think. And you know, the other thing that comes to mind, be like those monks who've been walking across America. You know, they're very extreme examples of that.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
But they also. One of the things that was like, while I was tuning in, because I kept sending them energy, just like healing energy, because physically they were exhausted, and of course, they just continued on. Some of them had to be hospitalized.
They had a dog that had to be hospitalized, too, which is so cute. The story that the dog wanted to come back and love the monks, but as they were walking, what was shown to me, as they were walking through some grid points and activating those grid points, and because of what they did, now there's. In every other country, there's also other monks that are doing those, starting those peace walks, because.
So it's just a thing that's growing, that's getting better.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: So those monks fit our first two categories.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. And that's another thing, too. It's like they're doing the work, too.
All right, and then our next one is transmuters.
Their role is as transmuters consciously dive into negativity and dense energy to transmute it into light. They often work to clear an ancestral karma or collective negativity, turn it into balance and neutrality.
And I can definitely say you would probably connect with that Lola.
So one of the things about Lola is if she's somewhere, she'll feel exhausted afterwards, but if somebody has really, really not great energy.
She will like absorb it. It's like her way. It's a transmuter. Like you just bring in that energy and you're like.
[00:18:29] Speaker A: It deflects it from the other people.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: From the other people. And yes, it does affect them as far as it drains them, but nonetheless they just do it automatically. That's what they're.
That's what they feel that.
And for the longest time I would be so like.
So don't you want to block yourself or like, just like protect yourself? But then I realized, oh, a transmuter can't really do that because that's actually what they do.
[00:18:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you ever see, see me like in a. At an event where I'm in the audience, my hands are always moving, doing light language codes.
So I'm always holding space for the people around me and transmuting the energy that way too. I can't keep my hands still.
So I try to be in the back row.
[00:19:18] Speaker B: So much for trying to hide.
[00:19:22] Speaker A: It's just what I do. Yeah, but that's good. But I was also thinking when you were describing that of shamans.
[00:19:28] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: Because they dive deep. They face another person's subconscious fears for them, not to totally transmute it for them, but to help. Help the other person to heal themselves.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Yeah,
[00:19:43] Speaker B: yeah, that one's, that one's like.
It's a very powerful thing that they do through using their bodies of just being able to absorb that negativity and being able to clear it. So that's something for sure.
Our next one is healers, which I'm pretty sure that a lot of people fit under this category.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: They focus on healing humanity, animals and the planet on physical, emotional, mental or spiritual levels. They often need to master self healing to effectively help others because they're they.
[00:20:18] Speaker A: They care about people. That's why they're in the helping professions. Or they're. They want to be energy healers, for example, as well.
It's on my list too. Healers.
And mine says what they do, they work directly with the body, emotions or energy.
And they help regulate nervous systems, which we're finding is so important.
They help regulate nervous systems and offer restoration.
Now mine gives some examples and you might be one of these and not realize you're a lightworker because it's energy workers, it's therapists, it's massage therapists, it's herbalists, trauma informed practitioners like our friend Jeffrey. Right.
And their light shows up as repair.
So yes, you can be like a massage therapist. Who maybe is quite awake on the spiritual path. Yet that's still. You're still being a lightworker, even if you're not aware of it.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: And one other thing too, about the healers is really interesting because I find it in most healers, in order to do that healing that they come to here to do, you get to experience a lot of, like, crazy situations growing up, especially painful situations.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: And that's the way they find themselves. Heal themselves.
[00:21:39] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: And are able to heal others as well.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: Because a true healer has to have empathy.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:21:46] Speaker A: So, yes. So thank you to all those people in those professions and even people who are practitioners, like we said, of energy healing. You guys count too.
[00:21:56] Speaker B: Exactly.
So our next categories are the seers, the psychics, and the clairvoyance.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: Well, I know a few of those.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: Their role is these lightworkers have opened their third eye to see beyond the veil of illusion. They use their psychic vision to guide, inspire, and identify where healing or light is needed most.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a broad category.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: It is a very broad category.
[00:22:30] Speaker A: It's interesting you talked about your third eye being open when you, as a, as a grid worker.
So there's so many different kinds of people with these skills. And we've done episodes about the Claire's, because some people are clairvoyant, some are clairaudience, some are clair gustant.
So it's just a matter of, I guess what, you know, I'm awake now. I feel like I have certain abilities and certain skills and just to start to embrace yours.
Because your list was pretty vague there, wasn't it?
[00:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. As far as, like, I just listed off. One of the things that I read that it's so powerful. It was such a powerful quote for me about the sears of psychics and the clairvoyance is that in order to help others heal.
Well, how they help others heal is to find the inner power within themselves, within those people that they're helping in order for them to be able to heal themselves.
Because no matter if you get the greatest seer out there, you still have to do the work. You're the one that has to go through. The parts of, okay, this is no longer aligned with me. It's time for it to be let go.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think a good psychic is trying to help people find their own empowerment.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: Yeah. So like we said, there's so many different subcategories within psychic, within seer.
We could probably have a full episode on that. Oh, if you hear noises, that's the kitty. Cat joining us on the table.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: Just use it as a bridge.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: She used me as a bridge.
Yeah. So I don't even know how we can elaborate on that one without getting too, too deep into it.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, and then one of the things it doesn't list off, it says the sears, the psychics and the clairvoyance. But there's also, like Lola said, there's a lot more gifts too. So those would count in this category.
[00:24:26] Speaker A: All of them. Yes, absolutely.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: So don't those of you that have other clairs don't think that you're like being left behind?
[00:24:33] Speaker A: Just.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: Those are the only ones that are listed equally important.
[00:24:35] Speaker A: Important.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Exactly.
The next one on our list is divine blueprint holders, or the bearers.
Their role is they are responsible for anchoring the divine template for a fully awakened humanity and Earth.
They work with sacred geometry and high frequency codes to bring forth the new Earth.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So first thing my mind goes to, since I used to be a moderator for a light language Facebook group, is the light language. People who create all these grids and, and patterns and intricate drawings.
They're definitely doing that.
[00:25:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: Even the ones who just write code.
Think about it. Code. It's code. You're changing the code on the planet with those, those codes.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: Right. Well, that. And, or they're using their own bodies too. Because you can do light language with your own body as well.
Movement.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yes. And. And you know, there's. And it's not just, you know, people who work with light language. I'm even think. Think of people who are excited about math.
[00:25:39] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:25:40] Speaker A: Because they see how the math ties into creation and how the world actually functions. So they're, they're tying it all. So sometimes you could just be a math. You could just call yourself a mathematician or a scientist or an observer of life. You might not think you're like, even be familiar with the concept of a light worker, but look at you, you're. You're doing that kind of work. So you actually are light worker.
[00:26:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And what ties the woo woo into.
Into science is quantum physics, so.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: Absolutely. And sacred geometry. We talked about even like what you're doing. You know, he got a mandala coloring book. And when you're filling in the colors on the mandala, you're doing that kind of work.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, what's really interesting is it's giving me so many profound things. Yesterday I was doing this deep healing and that mandala thing just started like completely just bringing me all these things to like, just regulate and let go of and just Be aware of. I just. Man, my stepdaughter gave me that gift. It's probably like such a. It's such an amazing gift. And I had to even share to her how great, how thankful I was for that gift.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: When I was a smoking cessation counselor, I used to recommend people do that. And a lot of them. That was before the adult coloring books got really popular. And I said, oh, you can just go to the Internet and print one up and color it in. And so I was doing my light work by suggesting that they do that instead of, you know, if they needed a distraction for five minutes.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly.
And then our next category is the dreamers. Their role is they perform significant light work through astral travel, lucid dreaming, or by accessing alternate dimensions while sleeping.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: All right, I want to say something very clearly about that.
You probably already do that in your dream time, but you're not aware of it.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: So don't think you have to be consciously aware of being in a certain dimension or something or having had a certain experience.
You're doing it. You just don't remember when you come back. That said, some people do remember, and that's what they're talking about. But I don't want you to compare yourself to those people because you're doing that work at night.
[00:27:57] Speaker B: Yep. And then here's the other thing, too, which you just brought it up, which is a good way to put it. But we all do it. We just don't remember it. But there is some people that do remember it. And they go into the astral plane fully aware that they're going in there and their work that they're doing. But also they are doing that work, and they're aware of that work, because it's almost like with the Claire's, like, everybody wants to be a clairvoyant. And all the other gifts are just as important and just as strong. They're just used differently. But because I always. I was like, how do I learn how to, like, astral travel? And they're like, you already do that now, if you remember it or not, that's a total different.
[00:28:37] Speaker A: Right. So I think that your list is trying to talk about it being conscious, But I just wanted to assure people, you actually do do that already, so don't feel like you're doing anything wrong. But the people, more power to them. I have not learned how to do that yet.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: Me neither.
And we do know someone that does do that kind of work, and it goes into the astral travel, and they are pretty aware of the work that they're doing.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: You know what's funny is when one of those who's very aware of astral travel says, I saw you last night.
Oh, we did. What were we doing?
[00:29:12] Speaker B: It's funny, too, because when those people say, like, oh, it was really rough last night. And, like, all this, like, there was a lot of things that went on, and then the next day you're like, I'm exhausted.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: My favorite is that I've had a couple people tell me this. It's like I was in peril. You showed up, you deflected something, and you left.
It was so fast. I was like, oh, wow, I did.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: It's like being a superhero without knowing it.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: Exactly.
But maybe that's good, because then it doesn't inflate my ego.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: But let's give credit to the people who do this consciously.
[00:29:52] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:29:53] Speaker A: And some even bilocate.
So what were the terms they used there?
[00:30:00] Speaker B: They use astral travelers. Lucid dreamers.
[00:30:04] Speaker A: Lucid dreamers, Yes. I think that's easier to develop.
Yeah. I can lucid dream from time to
[00:30:09] Speaker B: time or being able to access alternate dimensions. Okay. One thing I do have to say with being able to access alternate dimensions, here's one thing I learned that I didn't know, and I want to mention it because I know a lot of you guys listening to, they might identify with this when you were little and, you know, when you were like, oh, my goodness, I was always daydreaming when I was little, and I would dream about this. Guess what that was probably you tapping into other dimensions in other lifetimes. Because if it was really vivid, where you remember yourself playing a different character, but you remember specific things about it, and you were playing with your toys about it, that, my friend, is a form of dimensional traveler. Because you're able to tap into other lifetimes.
[00:30:56] Speaker A: Well, and I would argue, based on cabal Kabbalah, we are living examples of every dimension. We're just.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: No, I mean, we're in material form. Yes, exactly. But it's all living at the same time as different dimensions, which is why
[00:31:08] Speaker A: some people tap into different time timelines. Like, I think that's what you're intimating.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: Yes, exactly. That's more what I'm saying. All right, and our next one is messengers. Their role is they receive guidance from angels, ascended masters, or the divine, sharing this wisdom through teachings, writing, or speaking to assist in the awakening process.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: We said that all over the Internet, don't we? Yeah, on social media. And people who teach and have retreats and things like that.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: I, you know what I'm loving? This is what I'm loving lately. This is what's been happening that I just have to share with people and everyone.
I can assure you, continue working on yourself and you'll get to this point. And it's not that it's a higher level, whatever. It's just a way of being conscious about living. So once the click, I call it like a click comes on and you realize there's no, absolutely no coincidence and that everything out there, it's aligning you with the things you're ready to see and that you are part of everything and that we're all part of everything.
That's when the magic really comes. And that's when you will read something that even though you don't even know who the heck read it because you never even heard of the person, but it will be so profound and you'll be like, whoa, that really caught me. And it's because of that. It's because you're allowing to finally be part of like really fully aligned with you and fully feel the.
I guess the bigger. It's a way of living your life. No longer meaningless, like being present, but also understanding who you are as your divine being and taking part of it all that we all are. Because it's not just like, oh, certain people are. We're just all. We're an expansion of source living a human experience. That's one thing I always say to people because people try to like we're taught since they want to play small.
And unfortunately this playing small, I mean sometimes I can see in certain situations that it can help you, but in the long run it doesn't.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: I also, when you were talking, I thought that this category could also apply to the ones who are kind of. Kind of like looked as the black sheep in the house.
[00:33:29] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: One that kind of catalyst for change can be that category too.
[00:33:35] Speaker B: Yeah, the ones, the ones that point out the white elephant in the room. But families don't want to point out.
They could be like. They do start kind of chaotic cycles in a way because obviously it just points out things that they don't want to address. So they get angry. But it's a. It's a catalyst. It's like it's a something to heal it rather than just to point it out because.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: Okay, so what's the next category?
[00:34:05] Speaker B: So the next one is Divine Blueprint creators and manifestors. The role they actively weave light to manifest positive changes, timelines and higher realities. On Earth, they work for the highest good of all, not just self interest.
That one is.
Well, first of all, let's go with manifestors. That's something we all do because we know we all manifest things.
With this one, it's more about shifting certain changes in timelines and higher realities on Earth, like bringing in that energy to be able to access those higher timelines for those that are ready to
[00:34:49] Speaker A: experience those higher and to teach others, too, how to do it.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:34:54] Speaker A: It's kind of a hard one to define, though.
[00:34:56] Speaker B: It isn't it?
[00:34:57] Speaker A: Or to describe.
But some people have that ability to. And they use the term weaving.
Which brings me back to light language and moving those hands again. You know, I think sometimes people are like me. We're doing it subconsciously. Whereas other people with this divine blueprint have an awareness of what they're doing. So I guess that goes back to the previous category. It's like, yeah, you might be a Lightworker, not even be consciously where you are exactly.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: But I'm sure that with giving different explanations of different type of Lightworkers will help you to notice either people around you that are Lightworkers and their gifts as well as yours.
All right, our next one is Ascension Guides.
Their role is individuals who are navigating their own ascension process and teaching others how to do the same.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: Oh, you mean like this podcast?
[00:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I was going to say there's a lot of examples of that.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Tons of them. But when you were saying it's like, oh, I guess that's what we do. Yeah, so, yeah, I think. And I think that there's so many people who. Who have a way. Yeah, I can speak. Have woken up and are trying to help others by either being examples or teaching them what they've learned.
So I think this is a huge category.
[00:36:23] Speaker B: And some of those two, as we mentioned before, another episodes is like, for example, when you start your spiritual awakening, sometimes you start listening to people like Abraham Hicks, where they have great information that totally aligns with you at some point, and then you outgrow, and then you tend to listen to other people and you're like, oh, now I'm listening to this person.
But it's all part of that.
They're all essential guides that they're helping
[00:36:48] Speaker A: you during a certain time, and there's nothing. And it's actually a good thing that they're helping people at a certain level so that they can take that next step. Step.
[00:36:55] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: Then the next one is way showers. Their role is they live their lives as a Living example of awakening, inspiring others simply by embodying their truth and walking their path.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: Sounds like the monks again, doesn't it? Yeah, but it can be someone as simple as someone who just kind of tries to keep the stay on the high road rather than getting embroiled in conflict, things like that.
[00:37:24] Speaker B: Exactly.
Well, and it's interesting because I think we can all be this role. Not all the time, but when we do stand out for what we believe in and we try to help others to see themselves for who they truly are, that's a way of being a way shower too. So we all kind of do that, I feel like.
[00:37:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I think you just by example, you don't have to be showy.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: You don't have to have a YouTube channel. Right. You can lead by example.
[00:38:02] Speaker B: And then our Last 1, the 12th one, is the unifiers, which their role is. They work to bring together different disparate philosophies, cultures, or spiritual ideas, demonstrating the oneness of. Of all things.
[00:38:20] Speaker A: Oh, that is Rainbow Thunderheart right there, isn't it?
So I do a drum circle once a month, and I am the custodian of a drum that a Native American earth healer made. His name is Rainbow Thunderheart, but he was born as Blue Thunder, and he decided that he wanted to include all cultures in the medicine wheels ceremonies that he was creating to help with the grid work of the planet. So he invited everybody of all cultures and let's all work together. So to prove how committed he was to that concept, he changed his name legally from Blue Thunder to Rainbow Thunderheart because he wanted to incorporate all colors of the rainbow in the work. So that's a good example of that.
Anybody else or anything else that comes to mind for you on that?
Because I think a lot of people are trying. Well, yeah, we're all trying to talk about unity.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:17] Speaker A: Because what's. What's really causing all the lack of progress. It could go faster. Is that we are constantly being bombarded with propaganda about separation.
[00:39:31] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:39:33] Speaker A: So for someone to overtly or very gently show people. People the purpose of unity. I think. I think there's so many people doing that right now.
[00:39:43] Speaker B: Yep, I think so too.
I think that there's.
It's so interesting.
I have cleaned out my social media completely of, like, people that were very negative and stuff. And even the other day somebody posted.
Somebody posted.
They put a laughing emoji on something I said. And it was just about, like pointing out that it was like the division and that's happening. Like, for example, with Politics that there's like, two wings, but it's one bird, and it's like a bigger plan behind it as far as separation. And the media is in it, and it's just so crazy. And as we start growing, we see it so clearly, but yet others don't see it.
[00:40:37] Speaker A: They're firmly on an us versus them, and it takes a long time to get out of that.
And I can say that perfectly because I was in that us versus them when it came to politics most of my life.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Yeah, you're right. It's not until they're ready to see it. But you can be that person who's guiding them toward that without telling them they're wrong, because that creates separation right there.
[00:41:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:03] Speaker A: Okay, so that was the last one on your list. We've got about seven minutes left, so we'll probably go through pretty.
Oh, no, we've got more than seven minutes left, so we'll go through my list, too. Some of this might overlap, and the first one does. We already talked about it. The first one that came up when I asked about Lightworkers was number one, the healer.
And we talked about how you can be many kinds of healers, you know, and it's not just. I guess I want to go back and say it's not always what is seen on the list we talked about, but a healer could be someone having a very good conversation with you.
[00:41:34] Speaker B: Exactly. That motivates you or gets you away from thinking of being, like, stuck in a negative thought or a negative way of thinking.
[00:41:44] Speaker A: Yeah. So number two on my list is the teacher.
And what do they do? They translate complex ideas into accessible language, which is so difficult on the spiritual path, isn't it?
[00:41:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: They help others understand patterns and principles. And some of the examples of those would be spiritual educators, podcast hosts, writers, and workshop facilitators.
And their function is that their light shows up as clarity and orientation.
So helping understand patterns and principles, that's a big job.
Like we just talked about. Some people don't see the pattern that's going on with politics, for example.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: And the other thing, too, is that you have to understand that people cannot hear you, because it's not just about hearing. It's a frequency thing. So when people haven't raised their frequency, they're not able to hear new information. They're just trapped in. In those mindsets of this is the only way it is. This is the way I was taught. They don't question anything. And that is okay, too.
Doesn't mean we have to follow It. But at the same time. Meaning that's just the step of their progress.
[00:42:57] Speaker A: Yes. And then the other thing that was on here. Translate complex ideas into accessible language. Boy, is that necessary. Because when you're looking at concepts like Kabbalah, which is the. Trying to always call it the study of man's place in the universe and the universe in man, that's.
That's deep, and that takes a lot complex. There's tons of complex ideas on the spiritual path, you know, so we need. We need the teachers, and they don't have to be up in front of a. A big, big group of people like we talked about earlier. It can be just one person having good conversation with you.
[00:43:40] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:43:41] Speaker A: Okay, so another one would be the mirror.
What do they do? Well, I think it's pretty obvious. They reflect truth back to people. Amaral's laughing because he's that for his family.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And they hate me for it. Well, I mean, they don't hate me. They just dislike seeing things that they don't want to address.
[00:44:01] Speaker A: Well, and that goes with what it says here in my search. It says, often this is unintentional.
They trigger growth simply by being honest or different.
And examples are truth tellers, cycle breakers, people who won't play along.
And their light shows up as confrontation and awakening. Because sometimes you need someone to poke you awake, don't you?
[00:44:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
Oh, yes.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Help you to see something from a different perspective.
So I would say you're a truth teller.
I would say you're a cycle breaker.
[00:44:40] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:44:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:43] Speaker B: Even though it wasn't easy, but yeah.
[00:44:47] Speaker A: And I bet most people in the audience are going, yeah. And remember when I mentioned black sheep earlier? Yep. The black sheep.
[00:44:54] Speaker B: Oh, yes.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Okay. So the next one would be the holder or the space holder, which is me. Right.
What do they do? They stabilize rooms. They regulate groups. They create safety without dominating. Your search had a different term for that. It was like taking on negative, but it isn't always negative.
So here's the space holder, which is me. We stabilize rooms. We regulate groups. Sometimes that's not necessarily negative. You're just moving the energy equitably and create safety. That is my job. Absolutely. Oh, that's funny. So it says examples, drum circle facilitators.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: I do that. Group leaders, grounded presences in chaos, like we talked about. Monks, for example. And their light shows up as containment.
So we want everybody in the group safe and contained.
Okay. Another one on my list is the builder.
And what do they do? Oh, the cat is between. What Are you doing between my feet down there?
Okay. What do they do? They create structures that allow others to thrive.
So examples. Now we know people like this who would never think they were lightworkers. Right. Community organizers.
[00:46:12] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: Founders.
People who create platforms or something, spaces and their light shows up as infrastructure. So they're giving you the foundation. Foundation to work with, Right?
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Charity workers.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: Yes.
Yes.
So you might be a light worker and not even know it when you have that kind of work that you're doing. Right.
And you know, and finding safe spaces, that's really important with this kind of work. Because one of the hardest things I think is, is for people want to start groups, they want to start community spaces. But then it's so hard to find a venue for that.
And part of that goes back to the people seeing the spiritual awakening as a threat to what they're used to in their milieu. So sometimes, well meaning, I think they're well meaning religious people will say, no, you can't be in this space. Because they don't understand the spiritual awakening. They think it's going to be some kind of witchcraft or voodoo or something like that. When really we just want to have a space to play the drums.
[00:47:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: You know, so even someone who rents a space to you who may not even be that interested in spiritual could be a light worker by proxy, I guess.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Without even realizing it.
[00:47:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
Okay, here's another one that just might self apply the artist.
And what do they do? They transmit insight through imagery, music, story or symbol.
And examples would be obviously artists, musicians, storytellers, filmmakers. Their light shows up as imagination and emotional translation. I like that. Emotional translation. And that's true. Some of these concepts are so difficult to express that a lot of times when I'm doing my self healing, I'll make a collage to express my feelings because I can't put it in words. But when I finish the collage, I feel like I've transmuted those feelings.
So I think that's how it gets done with artistry. Music seems very, very obvious, doesn't it? We know how cathartic a song can be.
[00:48:36] Speaker B: And it's funny what true like forms of artistry can be too. Because like I was thinking the other day, because I like I with my coloring book, that's a form of artistry because you're still creating something that wasn't there. And only, not only that, but you're literally healing the energy because you're just focusing your bringing yourself to peace. Whatever is troubling you, you're clearing it out, you're making it be more balanced. So it's just. It's quite interesting. What you might not think it's artistry. Cooking is an artistry as well, because you're still making something, you're creating something, and you're adding also an emotion to it. Hopefully it's a good emotion, too.
[00:49:25] Speaker A: And then the storytellers, that goes back to so many lineages because you can talk about complex ideas easier in a story.
[00:49:34] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:49:35] Speaker A: And same goes with filmmakers. And I'm going to be honest with you, I haven't watched a current film in a long time merely because I just found them too low vibe for me. But you've been telling me lately it sounds like there's been a push in more enlightened filmmaking coming out.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: It's not. It's. I wish it was more broad, like, meaning like every movie is trying to do that, but it's not. They're like more worried about special effects. And one thing that drives me crazy is the fact that the special effects are like, even, like a must and not even have a strong storyline. And I can't do a movie without having to be a strongly strong, meaningful.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: That's pretty much why I stopped going to movies.
[00:50:15] Speaker B: But I have found really good movies. And you know what I've been doing, I just will go on my phone and say good spiritual movies are available, and then they'll give me a list of different ones, and I start reading the definition of them and whatever aligns with me at that time that I want to see something, that's what I'll watch. I don't just go and jump on different ones because I know they're not really aligned for me to see yet.
[00:50:41] Speaker A: Well, that's good advice. Okay, another category on my list is the Alchemist.
And what do they do? They transmute pain into wisdom.
They often walk through intense experiences and metabolize them publicly.
Examples. People who share their healing journeys.
Those who transform trauma into service. Oh, that's our Jeffrey again.
And their light shows up as transformation.
You know, when I was a smoking cessation counselor, one of the main things people really wanted to find out is like, did you smoke or not?
And I'll be honest with you, a lot of us never smoked and they didn't want to talk to us. I don't blame them. They want someone who walked the walk, talked the talk, knew how hard it was for someone to actually quit and be successful. And that's what we're talking about here. People who've got gone through the lumps and bumps of life and come out of it and talk about their journey and share that there's a sense of moving forward even when you feel like you're going backwards.
Eckhart Tolle is coming to mind. You know, he was like a homeless guy sitting on a park bench coming up with all these Zen ideas, you know, before he wrote his books.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: So anything you want to add to
[00:52:03] Speaker B: this that's so interesting that you mentioned him? Well, I mean, I don't. I didn't even know that story about him. But I find that a lot of the.
Of the people that made it big as far as spiritual, like for example, Wayne Dyer is another one.
They all came from such disruptive families. But also one of the things, because I was just watching Wayne Dyer documentary yesterday of his thing, and one of the things that he said is that everyone can has a story, but it's up to you to create the story that truly aligns with you. Because you're giving a story when you're born and when you grow up. But that doesn't have to define you as that's your true story. And what defines you is when you find yourself. And the things that you truly love and enjoy is when your life changes. Because now you're no longer living, just whatever arrives to you. You're now co creating. And what was that category again, which really reminded me of that?
The alchemist. Yes. You're. You're literally you. It's almost like you started cooking with only limited ingredients that weren't fulfilling you. But as you go through life, you start developing like, what is my true essence? What is the true things that make me feel alive? And that's how you change your life. That's how you change the things. Because the more you find out who you truly are, the more you start sending that energy of like, this is what I got to move forward with.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think the main thing about this is they're showing you, I came from this, now I'm this.
[00:53:42] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:53:43] Speaker A: You can do it too.
So they're very inspiring.
Okay, the next one on my list is what we started with on your list. Grid workers.
But this is interesting. It's being described as energetic stabilizers.
That's a good way to phrase it, isn't it?
[00:54:00] Speaker B: It is, yeah.
[00:54:02] Speaker A: So what do they do? They work subtly with intention, prayer, or presence.
You do it with presence to stabilize collective fields. And their light shows up as subtle influence. It is subtle because nobody knows you're doing it.
[00:54:16] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: Okay. So we kind of went into that in depth earlier. So the next one on my list is the guardian.
And what do they do? They protect boundaries. They call out bypassing. They keep spiritual spaces honest.
And their light shows up as one of the most important things on the spiritual journey, discernment.
So I guess this is kind of like calling someone out when they're not being authentic, for example, or they might be leading a group astray through ego, for example. So I don't think that's probably a comfortable lightworking job.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:58] Speaker A: A protector of boundaries.
I think I tend to do that. Don't you think? Probably Kind of call people on their baloney.
[00:55:07] Speaker B: Yeah,
[00:55:10] Speaker A: but it's to keep spiritual spaces honest. And that's so important because. Well, we know you all have to do is an Internet search and you're going to see the spiritual leaders who are full of ego. You can tell by just looking at them or reading a few sentences about them.
[00:55:26] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:55:27] Speaker A: You know, so discernment is so important. So you know what.
And when you're on the early on the spiritual path, you don't have very good discernment. So someone needs to help guide you with that. They do. They need to show you that you're going too far into la la land sometimes.
Any comments about that? Other than laughter?
[00:55:50] Speaker B: I mean, I think everybody eventually should get it and everybody should eventually really develop a discernment where they. For their own good, I should say.
[00:56:02] Speaker A: But it's a. It's a tough lesson to learn. And so someone who's kind of showing you. Yeah, I think does do a good service.
[00:56:09] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:56:09] Speaker A: At least pointing some things out. And probably, you know, and I'll be honest with you, I probably mostly do it in a gentle way. I made it sound like I'm harsh, but I. I think I'm usually good. Pretty gentle about it. But sometimes. Yeah, people need redirecting.
[00:56:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:23] Speaker A: Okay. The final one on my list is the integrator. And what do they do? They bridge science and spirituality. We kind of talked about that earlier, didn't we? They ground mystical ideas into everyday life and their light shows up as translation. And I think that's so important because there's so many people who are hesitant about them.
Mystical parts of like we talked about sacred geometry, for example. But yet when you start to tie it into science, they can actually grasp it.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: So. And this is. This reminds me of Shungite, because when I was at Mystical Wares, you know, they have so much Shungite at that store, but they also have the. The physical evidence about why Shungite does this. You know, it's scientifically proven it does this.
So it works on the EMF wave. So for the skeptical person who doesn't want, it's like, how do. I don't believe this. There's data about something, at first glance might seem woo woo because it's a rock.
[00:57:29] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: So they play an important road too, an important role.
So we do have about two minutes left here. So we made it through the full list. Any last minute comments?
[00:57:42] Speaker B: Yes, I actually do want to. And Spirit was nudging me the whole time that we need to talk about ego because, yeah, when people are like, oh, I'm a lightworker, a lot of the times it brings out very egotistical traits. Because the truth is we're all lightworkers as far as we're all doing some sort of work in some sort of way.
But just this is more to explain the different categories of what they are. It's not to boost anyone's ego.
[00:58:13] Speaker A: And we fall into that ego trap early on. So when you hear someone proudly saying, I'm a lightworker, use your discernment. They're still a little bit caught up in the ego, and that's okay.
And you just keep yours in check and realize that that person might have a little more growing to do. Yep.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: Well, thank you for tuning in.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: And on that note, we'll see you next week.
[00:58:36] Speaker B: Yep. Don't forget to share.
[00:58:37] Speaker A: Bye.
[00:58:38] Speaker B: Bye.