Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Woowooville, the next stop on your spiritual journey, hosted by two fellow travelers who found a soul connection on the path to higher consciousness. Our goal is to help you navigate the choppy waters you're likely to encounter on the spiritual path by sharing our experience with you each week.
Join us as we spill the tea on what it's like to wake up to your authentic self.
Hello, my name is Ameril, and I'm here with.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: I am Lola Singer, and maybe we should do a brief recap about the podcast for people who are new to it.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: A little reminder.
I met Amara in the midst of my spiritual journey when he was beginning his.
I've been on the intuitive path for quite some time. I read tarot, I draw people's spirit guides, and I mentor people.
And so that's kind of what happened with me and Amaral. We wanted. And I want to help people on the spiritual journey, and he does, too, no matter. Matter what level you're at. And what do you want to tell people about the podcast?
[00:01:09] Speaker A: So today's podcast is going to be.
We're going to be talking about the new lunar year, which is the fire horse and what it symbolizes.
So we welcome the fire horse, New year, new lunar year into our lives. And because we have listeners that are probably new to just different, I guess, Lunar New Year. So we're going to explain a little bit what the energy is about.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: I'm going to backtrack a bit and go back to what the podcast is about, because ideally, we're trying to help people who are new to the spiritual journey. So that's why he's saying some things might not sound familiar to you, and we love that there's people who've been on the spiritual path a long time listening, too. So shout out to you guys as well.
[00:01:56] Speaker A: Yes, thank you.
[00:01:58] Speaker B: But, yeah, I mean, who knew that there was even more than one type of astrology? I mean, you could look at Vedic astrology as well, and some astrological tenets are that there's 13 moons in the cycle, so we need to reflect that properly. So there's different types of zodiacs. And. And Amaral wanted to talk about the lunar calendar, which is the Chinese zodiac. So if you weren't aware that that existed, now you are.
[00:02:31] Speaker A: Yep.
So let's start with the very basics that. What are the 12 Chinese zodiac signs? Because each.
So just like we have zodiac signs like Leo, Scorpio, et cetera, et cetera, we have 12 that are.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: They're based on the year you were born.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: Exactly. And those ones are broken down into different animals and different elements. Exactly.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: So isn't it fire, water, metal, and wood?
[00:03:04] Speaker A: Yep. Fire. Well, fire, water, wood, and then metal. Yep.
And so the. Just a breathing. So the 12 Chinese zodiac animal are the rat, the ox, the tiger, the rabbit, the dragon, the snake, the horse, the goat, the monkey, the rooster, the dog, the pig, and the pig is the last one.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: Which one are you? Because if I had to guess, the first thing I would say was monkey.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: I'm definitely a monkey. I'm a metal monkey.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: What do you think I am?
[00:03:48] Speaker A: I'm not sure I want to say either the tiger, or I would have to say the tiger or the ox.
[00:03:58] Speaker B: Whoa. Good guess. I'm an ox.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:04:02] Speaker B: I didn't think you'd get that.
Okay, so I guess when you get. Once you familiarize yourself with it, you can guess people's.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: Yep.
And a funny thing, a little funny story, is every time we. When I was younger, we went to Chinese restaurants, I would always look at the little things because it had.
Instead of your mats, they would have these, like, plastic covers that it had the Chinese zodiac. And we had to, like, figure out what each one of the family members and read them. They're a little description of what it was.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Yes. So just like the Western zodiac, there are traits associated with it which is leading us back into the year. Because there's traits for the year associated with the horse.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Exactly. So let's get started with the fire horse. What it symbolizes.
So the core themes of the fire horse. Energy. It's freedom and independence, passion and movement, sudden shifts, radical authenticity, burning away illusions and momentum after stagnation.
This could also be framed as the fire horse doesn't ask for permission. It runs towards what feels true.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: Well, yeah. And it's interesting when you go through that list, because you're feeling the freedom and the movement more than I am. I'm feeling the recovery from the shift. The. The quick shift.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: So one of the things I'm being guided by, by my spiritual team is right now I am the horse in the corral, and I'm feeling frustrated because I do want to run like. Like, and have that momentum and movement and freedom that the this year represents. But I'm being guided that I need to recalibrate first.
So what they were telling me is if you think about a horse jumping over the fence, there's a. There's a point where it's coiled up. Energy first.
[00:06:04] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: And that's where I'm at. And it's like it's not your time to jump yet, it's your time to prepare to jump. Which I find kind of frustrating because I thought with Year of the Horse I'd be ready to go, so. So could you read those last three? Because there might be people in the audience who are feeling like I do. It's like I thought it was going to feel like freedom and I was going to just go, go, go. But I think it's good for them to be aware of that because I'm going through that and I'm sure other people are too.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: So the last three were.
Well, we'll do the last four because I think the third one really connects with it too. It's sudden shifts, radical authenticity, burning away illusions and momentum after stagnation.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: Which is interesting because I guess the reason it feels frustrating. You think the Snake year or the year before, she have taken care of some of those, but it's overlapping. Yeah, but why don't you talk about the ones at the top of the list that you're feeling?
[00:07:06] Speaker A: So first let me also go back and say that the fire on the horse, it means transformation, the transformation of the horse equal to movement. Together they represent spiritual acceleration.
So I think that's one of the biggest misconcepts about spirituality that we. When you hear the word spiritual exhilaration, automatically everybody thinks fast go. When spirit exhilaration just means really like just things open up more and you're more like open to experiencing shifts and growth and evolution. Not necessarily with just full on speed. Because as you said, I think the one thing that we really want to point out is that the year of the Snake changing into the year of the Fire Horse, it was such a drastic change in energy because the snake was about reflection and it was about like stain, it's about shedding, about releasing.
So it doesn't really have as much like per se movement in it. And the fire is a lot about movement as far as just moving forward. So what it does is you have two complete opposite energies.
And especially in the beginning, it's part of the breaking down of, okay, where are you at? And just like Lola said, I did have like probably like two weeks before I had this urge within me that I couldn't explain. But I was like, I need to get moving. I need to get moving because the fire horse is going to come here and I want to be ready for it. I want to be ready for that energy.
And what's really interesting is, is not that I was like, in my mind, I Was processing. Like the energy is going to shift and it's going to be in this whole thing. But what that really did was I started like so many things started, like bubbling up to the surface of you're not ready yet. Like, there's all these things you have to address. And even on the actual day of the fire horse, which was just yesterday when I woke up in the morning, my spirit team came to me and said, you have to finish up some things before. Like you can really be just welcoming this energy. And I thought, like, how bizarre. But it was deep things. Like, for example, it was a lot. It was about these.
There were situations where I haven't fully forgiven myself and I haven't forgiven those that were involved with those situations.
So what that was causing it was a blockage. So my spirit team was just like, it's time to just forgive yourself and truly forgive those. But it can't just be said in words. It has to be felt. So it had to be done from my heart space.
But as soon as I did it, I felt a shift right away. Like, I felt immediately like my heart just felt a lot more at peace, a lot lighter.
And one of the things that was probably the horse energy that created within me last week I started doing somatic dancing or just movement.
And that has really helped me shift out energies. And I feel like it really just helps. And today I had a really interesting thing while I was doing it all of a sudden, because a lot of the times I close my eyes to just feel like the music more and just move to the rhythm of the music and really feel the energy.
Well, I felt truly like the shape of the horse come in. And all of a sudden I felt this flame around me. And one of the things that I immediately said to myself is, I promise to create movement from this point on, because the fire horse asks for movement, but not necessarily the movement of rushing into things.
Remember, the three main things we're working with is the mind, the spirit and the body.
And a lot of the times I know for me, I can only speak for myself. I have left the body behind, Meaning I have not really focused on the body in that movement that is asking from us. At least that, like how spirit brought it to me was asking for the movement of moving the body so that I could feel more at flow with things, so I can have more clarity over things and I can shift out.
Because the other thing too, that I read and this was way before, was do not try to outrun the horse, because that's or Fire.
Yep, exactly.
So I wanted to clear that one out because, like, as Lola said, like, we're feeling complete opposites. And I do feel more like.
I guess I got. Because I had that moment of clarity and information coming in.
I feel. I feel very good about the energy coming in. That is just. I understand what it's asking of me. And authenticity is huge with the Fire horse, because that's what the main thing that it's wanting. It's wanting us to be our true selves, like, to let go of that delusion of who we thought we were, the illusion of.
They can no longer be carried by these energies.
[00:12:20] Speaker B: Oh, I agree completely. And I have been very, very authentic, feeling that push to be very authentic. And it's interesting because to have the last few weeks of the Snake, and I know I wasn't the only person, because I've talked to other people, to have some big surprises that got almost like the rug pulled out from under you. It's like you have to create a new identity first.
Because what I was holding on to were some core beliefs that I was.
There was a mirror held up to me by the snake that showed me that those no longer. Those are not accurate beliefs. And, yeah, they were kind of Pollyannish and, you know, and I. I liked them. It made me feel very positive about life. But the mirror told me, these beliefs are actually hurting you. They're not helping you.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: And so that's why I'm kind of like, I feel the push forward because I've. I've had to let go, go of the old me now. I'm becoming the new me in this horse season.
And it's. It's just you, like. Like you just said, you don't want to outrun the horse, and you don't want to outrun fire, so you want to contain your energy first before you make your leap. Does that make sense for some of us?
[00:13:30] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: And so this is a good question for people. Are you feeling agitated right now? Because if you are, it's that horse energy pushing. It's the fire pushing forward. But yet you might be like, me, like, wait a minute. My system needs to recalibrate first because I'm not who I used to be. I crave authenticity. But first I need to understand and embody who I am now before I can make that leap.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: I also read a lot of the.
What people were saying, how they were feeling about the energy as far as the collective. And what's crazy, it's because you have to keep in mind that A lot of the collective hasn't quite maybe started working on themselves as much. So what's actually bringing out of them, which, I mean, it makes sense. It's bringing it to the surface so it can be cleared. But is there ego? So a lot of people have been running lately with this energy. What it's doing is shifting them to go into ego. But that's also part of, like, lifting that up so that it can be addressed well.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: And I think going back to some other things, too, because there's a big push to move forward, and there are certain documents people are looking at right now that some of us have had 20, 15, 10 years to let our nervous systems adjust to that.
We went down certain avenues and found out a little bit of information in here, let it sit in our body. Maybe we were shocked at first, and then we recalibrated. And then these are people who haven't had that time.
So the collective is freaking out for that reason alone, because some of us have had time to process it, and others, this is their first glance, and they're getting everything in one fell swoo.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Yep. And then the other thing, too. So somebody brought up a good point about that, because not that we. I want to get into whatever, but all I was. All I was saying to this person was that I was really bothered by the fact that there was no action followed with, like, you bringing out these things, but you're not charging anyone, you're not doing anything, so what's the point of it? And she brought up a good thing.
She brought up a thing that I wasn't aware of that really brought some clarity. She said, for those that have experienced abuse, it brought up.
It make them feel more like, okay. It is out. It is acknowledging that abuse is not okay, that this is not okay. And that's why I was bringing it up. And then I thought I brought out the fact that I said, you know, growing up, I had history with abuse myself, but I had to learn that the more I held onto that story, the more like, it ended up affecting me. And I also had to understand that part of forgiving myself for holding to the story and forgiving that it actually created a full release for me to move forward.
And she said something that was like, so. Like, it was almost like dropping a bomb. She said, yes. And that took time for you to get there. It's going to take time for them to get there as well. So right now they're going through the suffering. So it's almost like a band aid that you just Rip out like you've ripped it out. And even though the pain was slightly contained, now the band aid has been ripped out. So they are feeling through their feelings, and we are all in different processes. So that's really what it's doing to the collective. It's just bringing those things to be seen more.
[00:17:08] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's the. Also the fire and the horse pushing things forward so it can be healed, and it's very fast.
And so one of the questions, you know, when you're thinking about all this energy that's moving forward, I mean, literally think of it as a fire. You want it contained.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: You don't want it running rampant. So one of the things I think, since this is a podcast for people, a lot of whom are very, you know, they're spiritual, but a lot of them are also very intuitive, is that we need to stay calibrated and we need to stay grounded. Those of us who have had more time to process it so that the collective doesn't tip in a direction that's not healthy for humanity.
[00:17:55] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: So we're probably feeling that sense of urgency right now, too.
A lot of empaths are feeling jangly, probably because of not only their personal situations, but what's going on with the collective.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: Yep. So another thing that's really important that surface up is what. What spiritual awakening feels like, especially in the fire year.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Ooh, good, good, good. What's that? Tell me, tell me.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: So many people are confused when awakening begins to normalize it.
So there's a few things. So first is the feeling like your old life doesn't fit anymore. That's gonna be brought up more to the surface, because that fire energy and that horse is really bringing it up.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: Yes. But I would like to go on record as saying I think a lot of the thought that was going to happen in the year of the snake.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: So we thought we were done to close the chapter. So that's part of my agitation is what. There's more.
[00:18:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is the next one. It's emotional purging.
That is what's also going to bring out for people that are going through their awakening process is like emotional purging, because that's normal. That fire. Fire is.
I forgot the word. When it burns off things.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Catalytic.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: Yes. Thank you. See, this is what's great to have Lola around, but that's what it brings. It brings out and it burns away anything.
Any illusions. So anything that's not yours, it's a purifier. Yeah.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: Then it's going to allow you also to see synchronicities, like seeing angel numbers, seeing things like they are just synchronized.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: Oh, that was like me yesterday. I went to the Co op, I walked out and there were two cars right next to each other with the license plates on. It said 9, 9, 6, 6.
I mean sometimes two double ones, you see, see parked together, but triples.
And then I crossed the street and there was a car that was six. Six. No, no, nine, nine, six, six, six. It was just like all these nines and sixes.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: So, yeah, I definitely was picking up on synchronicities.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: And then another thing that's going to do for those, those going through their spiritual awakening during the fire year is going to be questioning everything they were taught. So everything surface up because it's no longer in alignment.
So everything you were taught comes up. We had just a guest speaker not too long ago, Jeffrey in Maple, and he said pretty much, if you have to look at it your first years of your life, everything that was ever taught, you have to reteach yourself because there's a lot of it that was trauma based. Yes, you do have some great memories, but a lot of it, it's pretty much like you have to create your own story, which is kind of. That was one thing that I like really got on my mind because I'm like, oh, yeah, that does kind of make sense.
Wanting freedom from environments that feel dense or misaligned.
That's a. That's a memory of the past. But I mean, how many of us felt so stuck and so just wanting to get out of where we were because it felt so stagnant and it just felt dense.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: That would be an interesting to look at statistics, you know, because I don't think this has happened since the 60s. 1960s. Right. 66, I think it was.
[00:21:18] Speaker A: It's like a 60 year.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah. So it'd be interesting to see if there were more divorces in that year than usual. For example, I'm sure a lot of people were quitting their jobs, but they probably don't have records of that. But I wonder if the divorce has peaked in 66.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Probably. I know that they're peaking now. There's a lot of people that. I know that they're going through divorce and it's tough, but I think it'll be harder to just stick around and not.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: The horse wants freedom. The horse is not going to stay in that kind of environment happily at all. It will be snorting.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: And frothing.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: The other thing is heightened intuition, which this is so true. For me, my intuition is like off the charts with things and sometimes I have to just step back and be like, everyone has to have their journey. Just because I'm feeling and sensing things, I can't just be telling everyone what I'm feeling and I'm sensing. Especially those that are not ready to listen to it.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yes, you have to use discernment.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: Which I don't think the horse likes discernment.
[00:22:21] Speaker A: Probably not, but no. I step back. Yesterday was so interesting because I had such a busy day and Lola was messaging me right as the only little space I had. And I had to run to the beauty supply and come back because in the morning I forgot to pick up something I needed and I'm like, I can't really talk right now, but I'll talk to you tomorrow. But it's just so like it's been go, go, go.
But also at the same time, because it was such a solid busy day, I decided to reward myself by going out to a nice dinner and celebrating the, the lunar year. Even though you'll be watching this episode later on. But we went and celebrated and it was amazing. The place we went to was just incredible in so many ways.
And then the last thing on the list is body sensations, Heat, heart activation, energy surges.
This is so interesting because I just had a client that she's going through a full on like spiritual awakening and she says my heat is so off, I feel like I'm going through menopause and I feel like all these surges, I feel like she said, I finally put it, found out what the word is. And I'll get downloads and when I get those downloads, my body starts heating up.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: It's just a Kundalini. Yep.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: And but because she's feeling all these new things, it's just that her heat, her body heat is cannot. It just seems like it's so unregulated.
So in a small explanation, awakening isn't becoming someone new, it's remembering who you're always been underneath conditioning.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: Yeah. You're freedom loving and authentic.
That's been trained out of us.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: So that actually leads to something in my Internet search here, some questions.
So the first question that came up is horse energy about freedom or discipline?
Because it could be argued, is it wild instinct or is it trained power under guidance?
Which would be like for example, the discernment or me knowing that I have to recalibrate my body before I have the push forward.
Is this the year to run or is it a year to learn how to steer the energy.
So I don't think there's a definite yes or no to either one, But I think you're feeling more of that wild instinct. Let's run.
I'm feeling more of the, well, wait a minute. I need to learn how to steer this fire first.
And I don't think either one's wrong, do you?
[00:25:01] Speaker A: No, but I'm also like.
I'm feeling the energy as far as the movement and the push, but I'm no longer also trying to run with it. What I'm trying to do is be more flow with it, like understanding the energy and then moving, like, not trying to hold it because I can't stop it. So instead just flowing with it, which is one of the things that I'm supposed to even be learning in this lifetime anyway. So perfectly aligns with that.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Well, that leads to the next question on my list. Should we accelerate or should we slow down?
So is speed actually wisdom is the question I'm looking at right now.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: I would probably say no, however, but
[00:25:47] Speaker B: as a horse is going to say yes.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: You have to. It's a fine line, isn't it? You got to figure out. It's like, yes, a maverick stallion can run free, but if you're riding that maverick stallion, you don't. You want some kind of control, right?
[00:26:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: And does momentum actually mean progress?
Yeah, because sometimes, like me, I'm having an internal progress right now.
And can running sometimes be avoidance?
[00:26:17] Speaker A: That's true, too. And I have seen that.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: Yes, we've seen that many times in our lives, haven't we? So there's. There's layers to this.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: There is a lot of layers to it.
I like those questions.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: I've got more for later.
[00:26:32] Speaker A: All right, so then I'll go with other one, too, that this is a good one. So fire, energy, destruction, or purification.
Then there's an important extension.
So fire can burn bridges, burn illusions, burn ego constructs, and burn relationships that no longer resonate. But it also warms, illuminates, and refines gold.
So you can ask yourself questions such as, what is being burned away in my life right now? Because the main thing out of anything that happens to us is that we understanding the lesson. Because what happens when we don't learn the lesson?
[00:27:17] Speaker B: We repeat it. Yeah, but I think when you mentioned authenticity early on in the episode, that's what's being burned away. Anything that feels inauthentic.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Exactly.
And then the other thing is in mind, resisting the fire or allowing refinement.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: It's pretty Hard to resist a fire. Fire.
But refinement, that's nuanced, that's subtle.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: I guess the one thing is, what's coming up for me right now as we're speaking about this is having the boundaries of understanding how you move forward. As far as, yes, there's a lot of forward movement, but with that forward movement, understanding of being at flow is also meaning. Like, for me, it translates into going into a pace that it's comfortable for you and also allowing things to just come normally. The energy is already there and it's already going to be moving you forward regardless.
But understanding and flowing with it, it's more about, I think, what you're trying to say about gaining the wisdom and actually sitting in with the things that come up.
Even at any level, I feel that there's going to be thoughts that are going to bother you. But the thing is, it's not about those thoughts themselves. It's about why they're bothering you. Because once you go into the deep and sit with them, then you're going to understand yourself a little bit better.
At least that's what I find with my.
When I go through and I'm just looking at things, trying to figure things out.
Example. This morning I had a lovely thing with something that bothered me. And it was about.
Because I'm a professional, like, growing up, I gave my power away so many times. So many times that now when I feel like people are giving their power away, it's like automatic red flag always comes up. And somebody did like this writing and I was reading it, and they mention a word that I absolutely do not like.
Savior.
[00:29:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah. I don't care for that one either.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: And so because of that, I had to, like, it really bothered me. But I sat with it, right? I was like, why is it bothering? Why is it bothering me? And it was because of that. It connects with me, giving my power away. Understanding that when you're thinking of having a savior, it is about giving your power away.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: There's no sovereignty.
[00:29:49] Speaker A: Yeah, there's no sovereignty. So I had to understand and seeing it with a different light of this is a progress. Everyone's going through a progress, but also just letting it go. I can't have it just, like, be like, oh, I'm so upset because somebody said that, or go to that to them and say, how dare you say that? Like, it doesn't. It's almost like having a fire. And like, we're not going to throw fuel in it and you're not going to throw Wood in it because it just intensifies it.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean, you can be authentic but have boundaries.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
And the next thing is the horse movement, not stagnation.
The horse is restless. When confined in awakening, that can look like suddenly wanting to move, leaving jobs, ending relationships, outgrowing communities, feeling an urgency.
So in other words, movement doesn't always mean physically running. Sometimes it means energetic detachment.
[00:30:59] Speaker B: I'm going to go back to advocating again for those of us who thought we took care of that in the year of the Snake.
Gosh, I don't swear. So gosh darn that again.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: Yes, but see, this bottom part really is going to align and like connect with you. Lola. It says encourage discernment over impulsive, which is true. We have to discern through things.
There's so much, there's so much going on right now. If you really don't focus on yourself and go inward, there's chaos, absolute chaos. But it's just almost about realizing, like, do you what do you want to feed this? The energy is there, but what it's asking is how, how do you want to move in with this energy?
And the biggest things that decide how to move with the energy is your emotions and your frequency. Because yes, it's fine to go through and sort things out within yourself, but ultimately, let's say you decide to.
You're so angry, just can't pass that. And you decide that to make anger your home, that forward energy isn't going to help you with that emotion because it's going to bring in more things to be angry about.
And that's the looping circle that people aren't seeing. And when we say to people like, well, there's definitely an illusion being played out and they're taking. Part of it is that. That you cannot get rid or fight something with the same energy.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
So this might be. Even though it's a forward moving year, you might make more progress by looking inward is what you're saying.
[00:32:54] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: And that goes with one of these questions here, you know.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do some questions.
[00:32:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
Should we trust our raw impulses more this year or is this about refining impulses into conscious action, which I would consider to be mastery personally.
So is the horse the body and the rider or is the horse the mind pushing you? So I mean, those are personal things for you to look at.
[00:33:20] Speaker A: Exactly,
[00:33:24] Speaker B: yeah. Instinct, pure, raw instinct. Sounds great on paper, but living it, I don't know.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Oh man, I want to be horse
[00:33:37] Speaker B: running three for through the Canyons. But I also Want to have a nice plate, warm place to sleep tonight and an income coming in regularly and things like that.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: So refining impulse into conscious action. That is exactly what I'm doing right now because I'm having to re pivot on a lot of things, including how my business is operating.
So I do need to refine things before I act. So I'm in that category for sure.
[00:34:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:10] Speaker B: Another question you could ask yourself, is this restlessness a sign of growth or is it dysregulation?
This goes back to the body, like you said.
So that's why you want to be in touch with your nervous system. And like you're using somatic techniques to help you.
If you feel restless, does it feel like expansion or does it feel like anxiety? You need to question that. And how do you tell the difference? Well, that's really a personal thing, but usually with anxiety, it's definitely not comfortable.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: So you might want to be prepared this year with some ways to reduce anxiety.
If you can't do it in your personal life, in certain ways, you can at least learn techniques like Amaral's doing.
You know, and we've talked about these before, you know, breath work, in addition to the somatic healing, grounding, resting, music, whatever it is. Yeah.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: So the next thing that come up was the shadow side of the fire horse energy.
So for people, there are, through their awakening process, this is crucial.
So unbalanced fire can create spiritual ego.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: We've never seen that.
Are we going to see more of that this year?
[00:35:32] Speaker A: Well, it comes up. It comes up to be cleared.
Impatience.
There's a lot of that isolation.
I need to burn everything down, which, I mean, it does get you in that feeling overconfidence without grounding.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: Ah, that's a big one.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: So it's funny because some of the ways to work with the shadow side of the fire horse is grounding practices, which we just talked about, didn't we?
[00:36:08] Speaker B: Yes.
This might be the. Well, when you think about it, fire is traditionally spirit, which is the opposite of earthy and grounded. So to balance it out, I guess this is going to be a year where focusing, like you said, on the body and grounding is probably going to be more important than ever.
Yep.
[00:36:28] Speaker A: And then it brings us to our next one. Nervous system regulation. Yes.
[00:36:32] Speaker B: With that anxiety we talked about earlier, or potential anxiety. Yeah. It could be pure excitement for the future as well.
[00:36:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: But if it feels like anxiety, does it. Does it have suggestions on what. What you're looking at there, how to
[00:36:48] Speaker A: deal with it with the the imbalance and stuff of things.
Yeah. It's just showing you what practices will teach you how to, how to.
Deal better with the shadow side of the fire horse energy. So these are the things that are like more of the.
What will kind of rack those things.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: Well, since. Yes. And since you know, fire and horses are moving fast and you don't have time to think sometimes I always like, we always like to remind people the simplest thing is just to take a deep breath and then breathe out longer than you breathed in. It's super simple.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
And then we have pausing before major decisions.
[00:37:34] Speaker B: That's me right now.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:37] Speaker B: That shadow side.
[00:37:38] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: And paused too long.
I don't know.
[00:37:42] Speaker A: Well, I think that, I mean you gotta like, you gotta just read into your body like when you feel ready. You can't push yourself to do things when you don't feel ready yet.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not particularly buying into that being shadow. I think that goes with the discernment we talked about earlier.
Yeah.
[00:37:58] Speaker A: And then inner check ins instead of reactive exits.
[00:38:03] Speaker B: That would be hard when you've got a lot of forward momentum.
So. Yes. Check in with your heart space, check in with your body, check in even with your mind.
Hey, mind. Let's just stop and look at that.
Let me be the observer of what you're thinking for a minute.
Yeah. It's not like putting brakes on the horse, but it is steadying the horse. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:38:32] Speaker A: Do you have any more questions? I mean.
[00:38:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So one of the things that was pointed out in my research is we got to remember that sometimes the horse runs free and sometimes we ride the horse. Right.
So one of the questions is, does horse energy favor individualism or is it actually partnership?
Because the horse archetype can symbolize autonomy and independence and sovereignty like we just talked about, but it's also partnership, loyalty and cooperation. When you, when you think about a horse working with a rider and versa. Versa rider working with the horse. So you got to ask yourself this year, do I go alone or do I ride with others? Are you going to be cooperating with others?
[00:39:14] Speaker A: I guess that would really depends on like what your surroundings look like and if they're supportive or they're not, if they're nurturing yourself or not.
[00:39:21] Speaker B: Well, if this, it's a, it's a year of authenticity. So you, if you have good support that feels authentic and good and genuine, I think you're going to want to ride with that.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: Yep, I agree.
[00:39:31] Speaker B: So here's another question.
I think you touched on it earlier. Can too Much freedom become chaos.
[00:39:39] Speaker A: Yes, I. I agree with that.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: So what happens when no one's holding the reins?
What does an unbridled horse energy look like in a relationship?
[00:39:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:50] Speaker B: In business and in the spiritual pursuit, you know, that's.
That's where we're talking about, like, you know, divorces and such. Is that. Is it too much freedom, you know, or that I can't. I can't be with a partner anymore? Or is it. Can we cooperate and work together as a part, as partner moving forward? It's. It's. It's interesting. More we delve into the horse, it seems like. It seems like it's one flavor. At first.
[00:40:15] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: You think it's pure freedom. But then when you start to put these nuances in there, like. But what about a horse with a rider?
You know, how does that work? You know, it's. It's. I'm kind of glad we're talking about this now, because it makes you look at things from more than one angle.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: Exactly. Because I think that when you first hear about it, you're immediately like, I don't know what you were thinking, but my thought first, when February 17th is like, we're taking off.
[00:40:41] Speaker B: That's what I thought.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: And whoever the heck is not aligned with her, they're going to get dragged with the horse is going to drag him into, and it's just going to keep moving forward.
So now there's a little more flavor, more sultry to it. Like, we understand the deep ends of. Wait a second. It is this energy, however, this energy supports you in this way, too, depending on what part of your path you're on.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Which. And I was thinking the same thing as you, it's time to ride free. So when I'm getting the spiritual guidance support port, like, not yet.
You just had some major shifts and you're recalibrating.
You're not running yet. It's like, I was so frustrated yesterday. It's like, but I want to jump the fence and go.
It's like, no, honey, you're just not ready yet.
[00:41:31] Speaker A: Which is totally fine.
So my next one is fire horse plus collective awakening. So what is it doing to the collective, this energy?
[00:41:41] Speaker B: Oh, we talked about that. Partially. Yeah.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: So things such as systems collapsing, which is what we're seeing, a lot of
[00:41:51] Speaker B: that's natural right now, no matter what year it's going to be, Keep going, going, going.
[00:41:55] Speaker A: The other one is people questioning authority.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: Good.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: Yep. No, that is very good.
[00:42:01] Speaker B: Good.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: The rise time. Yep. The rise in sovereign thinking, which is very Much so in collective breaking. Generational patterns.
I love that because there's so much patterns that we don't have to follow anymore. Like, see, the things that truly fill you up, that make your life better, let go of everything that doesn't, everything that limits you, everything that holds you back, everything that actually ends up hurting you, it's just not meant for it to be continued.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: This goes back to when we were talking about epigenetics a couple episodes, back to where, you know, you can you be the one that clears the cycles for your family?
[00:42:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: Seven generations forward, seven generations back.
[00:42:51] Speaker A: Yep.
And then the final thought for this is, this is not chaos. It is restructuring, which.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm restructuring. I can feel that.
[00:43:04] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:43:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:05] Speaker A: And even everything in the bigger picture of things, the chaos that you see as chaos, what's happening, it's restructuring because it's showing you what it doesn't work. So that that way we can move with new things that are going to work.
[00:43:22] Speaker B: Okay, well, that leads back to some of the questions I've got here. Which the next one is, are we being asked to act or to prepare?
Is this a leap year or is it a training year? Good question, huh?
[00:43:35] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:43:37] Speaker B: So are we galloping or are we strengthening our legs before we run the race?
And once again, I guess there could be two different schools of thought on this, depending on where you are in your personal journey.
So.
Yeah.
And then another question is, is the horse a power symbol or is it a humility symbol?
And when I read that, I went, what?
But I'm going to read this verbatim because. Listen to this. Because historically, horses carried kings and warriors, but they also carried farmers and messengers.
So the noble and the humble. Right.
So is this about power or is this about service?
[00:44:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:28] Speaker B: So that's a. I think that's an excellent question.
And then another question is, is movement always forward?
Because sometimes it's a lateral move, right?
[00:44:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: Or it's an emotional release, or it's letting something go and just walking away from it.
So forward doesn't always mean what we think it means, does it?
[00:44:52] Speaker A: Exactly.
Then it brings us to our next thing is, how can we see this year act upon this year to cater to us the best that it can? So how to move with this energy instead of against it, instead of creating chaos in our lives?
So the first thing which totally makes sense is strengthen inner alignment first.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:17] Speaker A: So clear your emotional clutter, release old resentments, finish unfinished cycles, get clear on what you truly want, not what's expected.
[00:45:31] Speaker B: That's Looking at fire as the purifier.
[00:45:34] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: Purify first before you.
You can plan the action, I guess, but maybe before you act.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: Yep. So it's integration before expansion.
[00:45:45] Speaker B: That just seems prudent to me.
[00:45:47] Speaker A: Yes.
The next one is build nervous system capacity, which totally rings a bell for me.
So encourage such things as breath work. Really taking that time to breathe in, to be present. Because that's what breathing does. It brings us back into the present.
[00:46:07] Speaker B: Because I bet with the horse energy, you're very future oriented. And that does, no pun intended, does need to be reined back in.
Because if we're grounded and we're centered, we're in a better position to pivot, to move forward.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Yeah. And so because this fire horse is moving fast, cold exposure or grounding practices, which we talked about, those will help.
[00:46:31] Speaker B: Cold exposure.
[00:46:32] Speaker A: Yes. Cold exposure.
[00:46:34] Speaker B: That would be like the woman whose kundalini got released. I could see where she would hold exposure, but I.
Well, that's getting a little too literal in my mind, but go ahead. Yeah.
[00:46:46] Speaker A: Because I was gonna say literally, in a physical sense, like when we did cold plunges. Cold plunges are really good for your health.
[00:46:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:54] Speaker A: And they really regulate your nervousness, help you with regulating nervous system, helps you to be more present.
So it's just all about different acts of.
That could work for you. Doesn't mean you have to do it, Lola.
And then this one, which is really important for me, that I try to do every day, daily body movement.
Because that movement is just. It can be something as simple as your hands, like. Like maybe dedicated. One for your hands, one for your feet. And, you know, like you practicing.
When Lola does the light language singing, she's always. Or even sometimes with. Before she even does it, she's already doing movement with her hands. So it's all about that moving, that energy. Because moving the energy means moving whatever is stagnant. Kind of just like getting everything moved through.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: We talked about light language in another episode, and I mentioned that one of the forms of light language is dance.
So if that feels like it's a natural outlet for you, that could help you shift the energy. Definitely.
[00:48:01] Speaker A: Yep. And an honest self reflection.
[00:48:04] Speaker B: Oh, that always is harder.
Easier said than done.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: Oh, completely.
[00:48:13] Speaker B: And I would imagine the horse being impatient. That would be harder this year than other years to really slow down and do that. Huh. But like we talked about, that's what you need before you take the leap over the corral fence.
[00:48:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
So this is one way to look at it.
If. If you can hold the Intensity without collapsing.
You can ride the momentum instead of being dragged by it.
[00:48:43] Speaker B: Yeah, that sounds better.
I'll go for the former, not the last.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
So, yeah, for those of us who thought we were going to run free, maybe the better strategy is what I'm doing right now.
Okay.
My guides are actually smart guides.
Yeah, they are smart.
Okay, well, I think I was there. One more question. I think there was one last one here.
[00:49:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:49:16] Speaker B: What are you personally being asked to move toward?
So this is where it can get really vulnerable with us.
So it's like, where do I feel the urge to gallop?
[00:49:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:30] Speaker B: Where do I feel the resistance?
And where am I overriding myself?
[00:49:36] Speaker A: So all I hear from my spirit team is intention with your direction.
[00:49:45] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you want. You need intention with direction. Yeah, Directionless, not good. Especially when we're dealing with fire.
But that's a good question. I think when you were talking about going internal, these are good questions to ask yourself. So maybe you should put your hand on your heart and maybe you're, you know, do the somatics put your, you know, put other hand on your solar plexus or your tummy and ask, where do I feel the urge to gallop? I think that's a very good self.
Self reflective question.
And does it feel like it's merely for movement or does it feel like it's the smart thing to do?
And then where do you feel resistance? And then you can examine why you're feeling the resistance. And I think that could really help out. I definitely think so. Before you feel like you have so much built up energy that you're just moving for the sake of moving.
[00:50:37] Speaker A: Yep. I agree with you. The other one's really good on my list. Reclaim sovereignty.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: Sovereignty.
[00:50:43] Speaker A: Yep.
Fire horse archetype does not tolerate living for others.
So questions to ask ourselves. We're going to say ourselves because we can ask ourselves those questions as well.
Where am I shrinking?
That's a good one.
Where am I staying out of obligation?
Where am I ready to move?
[00:51:10] Speaker B: Yep. Those are great questions to ask yourself.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: So this energy supports bold decisions such as relocation, career pivots, creative land lounges.
Creative what lounges?
[00:51:28] Speaker B: L O U N G E S
[00:51:29] Speaker A: L A U N C H. Launches. Launches. Sorry.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: And speaking truth.
Sometimes the speaking truth can be hard. Because the one part where it's gotten me in the past about speaking truth is saying things that bother you in the past. Because even though you feel like, okay, they're in the past, you shouldn't bring them up. But guess what? If they're bothering you, you should at least write them down and get rid of them.
[00:51:59] Speaker B: Well, that goes back to that earlier question, what's making me feel like I'm shrinking?
[00:52:02] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:52:05] Speaker B: And sovereignty means self rule.
[00:52:07] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:52:08] Speaker B: So is it, am I in a situation where I feel like I've lost my authority over myself?
Yeah.
[00:52:18] Speaker A: The other ones activate creative expression.
Fire wants to be seen.
So launching the thing, whatever that may be for you, posting the message, starting the podcast, sharing the story and leading the conversation.
The reason why you want to activate this creative expressions is because suppression during the fire cycles turns into frustration in expression turns into magnetism.
[00:52:58] Speaker B: So fire is all about expression.
It's not quiet and receptive. It's all about moving out.
[00:53:07] Speaker A: Exactly. And the very last thing on the list is prepare for exhilaration.
So move faster than expected, fall away quickly, reveal truths rapidly and push decisive action.
Remember, respond, not react.
That's a big one.
[00:53:35] Speaker B: It's interesting as we've gone through all of the information that you've been looking at and the information I've received from my guides, plus what I see on my Internet search, there's always those caveats for the year of the horse. It's like, yes, run free.
But yeah, keep this in mind.
[00:53:57] Speaker A: And I love this last thing, just as far as acceleration goes is fire horse isn't about force, it's about forward flow.
[00:54:08] Speaker B: And you use the flow earlier. And really when you think about flow is the feminine to counteract all that masculine forward moving. Not to counteract, to balance it.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: To balance it.
[00:54:19] Speaker B: I guess that's what counteract is, but the forward moving momentum. So yeah, this is going to be an interesting year in many, many ways. I know there's also, you know, even with regular Western astrology, there's a big. There's a lot of things that are showing. There's going to be a lot of catalytic change this year.
So it's not just the lunar calendar. So this is a way to be prepared.
[00:54:47] Speaker A: And the one thing that I do have to say, even though you were talking about the rates of divorce and the rates of like things like jobs and how they change and stuff, the one thing is I was looking at this thing that was talking about how 60 years ago, like it talk about 60 years before and then 60 years and then now the six years and the stuff that was recorded that happened, there was a lot of worldwide drastic changes. So definitely expect that. And I guess the one thing that I just want to say that my like, guides are like pushing the button to like really mention is the reason why it's so important with this type of energy and these changes to go inward and regulate your nervous system is because that is your best, the best action you can take to be at peace with yourself.
The last thing you need to do is to be complete immersed in chaos and sending out this energy that with the forward movement energy is going to create more chaos in your life. Instead, what you need to do is make sure you're at a good place. You're able to take care of yourself by regulating your nervous system.
You're grounding, you're actually pausing instead of being reactive and you're choosing you.
And this is not in an selfish way. It's more of a self first in order for you to survive. These type of energies that are strong in order for you to be okay and be thriving even during this energies is that's what you want to do, is really take care of you.
[00:56:35] Speaker B: I think that's good advice. And then I was also thinking with the Year of the Hot Fire Horse, it's probably not just divorces. It's a lot of marriages too. Yeah. And it's. But based on what we're talking.
So it's like is this partner helping me to feel authentic? And if they are great, that's probably the partner for you in the year for you to think about the marriage, you know, so it's not all divorce. It's also the union and the cooperation that we talked about earlier.
Do I want a partner on this journey that's part of this year too?
[00:57:11] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:57:12] Speaker B: Okay. Well, we managed to talk quite a bit about this and it's. It was much more complex than I thought at first.
And so we just want to put out the good vibes to everyone. But in particular mixed by Bruce.
[00:57:26] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:57:26] Speaker B: Thank you so much for fixing our audio. Shout out to Bruce. And if you ever need any help with your podcast or if you are a recording artist, we can hook you up with him. He knows what he's doing.
And we also want to thank each other.
[00:57:41] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:57:42] Speaker B: So thank you for being the catalyst who pushed me to do this topic because I didn't want to do it at first.
[00:57:47] Speaker A: And thank you for asking me. Thank you viewers for listening and please share.
[00:57:52] Speaker B: Bye bye.
