WELCOMING & ACCEPTING CONSTANT CHANGE ON OUR SPIRITUAL JOURNEY

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Welcome to Woowooville, the next stop on your spiritual journey, hosted by two fellow travelers who found a soul connection on the path to higher consciousness. Our goal is to help you navigate the choppy waters you're likely to encounter on the spiritual path by sharing our experiences with you each week. Join us as we spill the tea on what it is like to wake up to your authentic self. Hi, I'm Lola Singer and I am here with my co host Amaral. And we have a topic today that we are about to dive into and we're just gonna let it flow. [00:00:39] Speaker B: Yep. [00:00:41] Speaker A: And what is it? [00:00:42] Speaker B: So our topic today is welcoming and accepting constant change on our spiritual journey. [00:00:50] Speaker A: You know, that was one of the things I didn't like for most of my life is things when things I felt like I couldn't control them. And the only constant is change. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:04] Speaker A: So you can't actually control change. It's inevitable. [00:01:08] Speaker B: It's very interesting though how when we start out, we don't like change because so far our change, we don't see it as a pleasant thing. Have you noticed that connection? [00:01:19] Speaker A: Well, that's because our ego equates safety and security and predictability with good. [00:01:26] Speaker B: And also the other thing too that I was thinking about is I read this quote that I thought it was hilarious, but it was kind of funny is before you awaken, you're drunk with ego. So it's kind of true. And so because when we listen to our ego, usually it's not leading us the right way. So as a result we're getting all this constant change into experiences we don't necessarily enjoy. And that's why when we think of change, they're like, oh no, not again. When it gives you a perfect opportunity to kind of set your intentions and co create your own story and apply. [00:02:05] Speaker A: The lessons you've learned so far. But I understand and I even just thinking about it, I'm still a bit resistant to it, you know, because I know you're learning to love the tower card in tarot. And for those of you who don't know about the tower card, you may have heard the term tower moments though. And that's when the beliefs you had that are identified with who you thought you thought was your core identity get stripped away because it's like, oh, you start to realize it's not based on any foundation. It's all false beliefs, beliefs, it's all indoctrination and it has to go. And so I think one of the things people, when I'm teaching tarot, I Try to teach them about the tower card. Is that out of all of the stuff that's mayhem that you see on the card in this tower that's falling, and there might be flames and people falling out of the building, but it's because it's the people, things, ideas, concepts that just don't work for you anymore because you have changed so much that there's just no longer a frequency match. It just inevitably has to go. And I try to remind the students that a tower moment doesn't have to be a hard fall. It can be an aha moment that changes your whole perception. [00:03:32] Speaker B: Yeah, well, in. What I enjoy about change is the. Well, what I've learned to enjoy, I should say, is I've healed myself. One of the things that we really go into is our subconscious, because in our subconscious, we put everything that has been programmed for us or anything that has really, like we're used to or whatever, like our values, for lack of a word that we have. And as we heal those, man, you really start witnessing the change. And I love having people that I can talk to, such as, like, Lola, for example. Today I came in and I just shared a dream where it was such an awkward dream because it was like I was dreaming of what my. My everyday life would it be except for a new character, that the new character was not identifying what it was going through because so much had changed that I felt like a struggle stranger in my own life, which I get. No, it's a little deeper than probably what people can probably grasp. But what I'm saying is, when you have. Dreams are so connected to your subconscious, it's literally like your subconscious is talking to you about the changes that have been appearing and you've been working on. And so it's such a nice relief to know that I've changed so much or I feel so much where I'm having those dreams where I can recognize things from my past, but also identify them as. That's no longer where I'm at. And I just feel, well, with life being a constant change, it's more about adaptation and more about us really putting in the frequency that we need to. What do we want to bring forth as we're healing? We think, like, the first part becomes really painful because we've never really done any healing, so that surfaces up first. And we think, oh, like, this is a lot more than I can handle. [00:05:33] Speaker A: But, well, we haven't done any healing because we were at the point we're blaming everybody else for our problems. Everybody and everything. It's always external. [00:05:41] Speaker B: Yes. And then you go inward and you're like, oh, I guess that is connected to that part of me. [00:05:48] Speaker A: I'm. I'm culpable here. [00:05:50] Speaker B: Yep. Well, and then it's really like, what I've learned is that it's no longer about the even with you. Even if when you are going through, you're revising those parts of you, but they're only coming up because they want to be understood. So as you understand, forgive yourself, forgive those involved, and just kind of let it go, like that becomes the lesson itself. So it's really interesting how as you start healing things, you start learning a new approach. Because I think that we get so caught up in everyday life thinking that we have to like, over dramatize everything and like dissect everything and watch it play out like this movie, when really all it wants to be is just understood and let go, acknowledge, forgiven, let go of. That's literally all that you need to do to go in and heal yourself. [00:06:51] Speaker A: Well, that's one of the things we learn about slowly but sure, surely on the spiritual path, about past lives. [00:06:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Because at first you're going to think, oh, I need to know all about this life. It's coming to the surface. I want to go deep into it. I want to understand every aspect of it. But eventually you find out as part of your healing is that in order to. To change it, transmute it. Right. We're talking about change. You actually don't need to know the details. [00:07:17] Speaker B: Nope, you don't. [00:07:18] Speaker A: Like I said, you just acknowledge it. You don't even know. You don't even. Like, maybe you have a vague awareness. Like, I've had a few of France and every time I tune it into past lives in France, I go, ick. I don't like it. It doesn't feel good. So I know that they weren't good lives in France. I don't need to know all the details, although I've seen one or two of them. I don't need to know all the details. I just need to know. Okay, those French lives, they sound like they were difficult. I don't enjoy France to this day as a result. So I don't need to know the details. I just need to thank you. Thank you. If these feelings are coming up related to France, then I need to let them go and thank them with love and that's it. I don't have to know. Who was I in France? Was I male? Was I female? Where did I live? What clothes did I wear? You Know, I don't. You actually don't need to know that in order to facilitate the healthy change. [00:08:15] Speaker B: And I think that's more of our ego too, that really wants to know and. [00:08:18] Speaker A: Well, especially if it's like a life that looks pretty lush. [00:08:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, who? [00:08:22] Speaker A: Wasn't I important? [00:08:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:24] Speaker A: It's funny because my tarot teacher always goes, why don't people ever want to talk about lives where they were a ditch digger? He goes, I remember being a ditch digger in a life, and I've had to play it in this life, and it was like, great. I can tap into the energy of this guy who really knows how to dig a ditch. Well, you know, but, you know, that's. That's the. Almost a stereotype when it comes to people talking about past lives. I was an Egyptian priestess, you know, I. I was the queen of this territory, or I was at battle as a. As famous general. Well, you might have been a ditch digger too, because we're here to experience life and learn lessons in life. And some of those lessons are very humble. [00:09:08] Speaker B: And it's great. I mean, don't get us wrong, it's great to acknowledge that you have those lifetimes, but that is not who you are now. And not only that, but those lifetimes serve a purpose. And that purpose was for you to learn your lessons, to have. To expand consciousness, to expand yourself. But the reason why we're even bringing up past lives and just that healing is because it's the. Your healing itself that creates all the changes. Think about like you're going. You're going somewhere new. And because of everything you're clearing out, you're emptying out that luggage of old memories. Old versions of yourself might not understand. [00:09:49] Speaker A: What you mean by clearing out. [00:09:52] Speaker B: So I guess, how should I say, you come to an understanding of old events that have happened to you, old traumas that are no longer you because you have healed those parts of you. So as you empty yourself from everything you've been programmed to be that you were not, then you allow new life experiences to come in. And in those life experiences, you can't bring your old self back with you. And that's part of that change, because it's the adaptation of this is something completely different. Like, for example, what I find fascinating is our relationships and the change we go through with the people we know. How many of you guys can say that you're still friends with everyone in high school? Like an example, yes, you might have some good friends from them that you still talk to, but. But nonetheless, you've changed so much. It's impossible for you to be able to talk to everyone from your high school or to have a connection with everyone in your high school. And that's all part of change. [00:11:01] Speaker A: It's very natural. It's not even the woo woo stuff exactly. It's very natural to drift away from people that you were very close to as teenagers. Because one of the most obvious ones is distance. A lot of people move physically away. They move emotionally away. You know, a really good example is just someone getting married. You know, it's like your friendship's never going to be the same again once they get married. [00:11:27] Speaker B: I mean, if you really ask yourself, do you think you're the same person from back then? [00:11:32] Speaker A: You wouldn't want to be anyway. [00:11:33] Speaker B: No, you wouldn't want to. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Oh, can you imagine? Oh, being 44 years old and having the values you had at 16. Oh my gosh, that's just. Oh, that just sounds just like horrible to me. [00:11:46] Speaker B: So this brings up a good thing too. As we move away from the things that are not good for us and that we know they're not good for us. Right. We choose a better, for lack of a better word, better, better choices. And we choose to stick with things that keep us in, like feeling good, feeling peaceful. And then there will be those days because they have happened to me where, like, if you grew up in a small town, you go back to a place that a lot of people went to back in those days, and you happen to just have stopped and have dinner or meet up with a few friends, and then you realize you run into people from your school, they're still always going out and getting drunk in that same bar. And you see them and you don't judge them, of course, because you're like thinking, like, I'm just glad that I'm not there anymore. But nonetheless, that's one of the things that's really interesting about sticking around at the town where you kind of like, grew up, or even when you go outside of your town and let's say you move to other cities and you used to go a lot to certain places, and then all of a sudden you happen to be by the area or you go into the place. It's just so interesting how you can change. And it doesn't mean that everybody else is going to come along. Like, some people just don't really like change. And they think that what they do all the time, that's just who they are. And they accepted themselves in that state. [00:13:26] Speaker A: Yeah. But then they might eventually get to the point where they're feeling. It could be years and years down the road, but they. At some point, they feel that restlessness. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:35] Speaker A: And then they start to go. Something has to give. I can't. I can't stay. I can't. You can't. You can't force it. You can't create a bubble box where there's never any change. [00:13:46] Speaker B: That's true. [00:13:47] Speaker A: So why don't we dive into something big? Yeah, let's do it, guys. Your mortal body is not going to be here forever. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:13:59] Speaker A: So we were kind of talking about that before. Before we signed on for the podcast. There are constants in life. One of them is change. And I guess as a corollary, because it's still under that category, there's. There's death, and death is renewal, ultimately, when you're. When you. When you're starting to understand yourself as a spiritual being rather than a purely physical being. But there are going to be people around you who don't understand that. And when somebody's dying or preparing to die, we were talking about how certain family members are going to be very resistant to that kind of change. But usually on the spiritual path, the more you go, the less afraid of death you become, because you understand. Well, just like physics, you know, the energy doesn't die, the body has to die. It can only last so long because as we go through life, we're building up toxins in the body. It can only go so far. But the eternal spirit is truly eternal. So, you know, when people pass away, yes, it's hard. We do miss them. And I grieved, and I know what sorrow is, and. And I also understand that ultimately they've moved on to probably a whole new body with a personality that may be slightly different, but built on what he or she has learned in past lives. That's my understanding, anyway. [00:15:31] Speaker B: Yep. And isn't it so interesting that we live in a society where. Where when someone's born, when someone is, like, young, it's so praised, but yet death is not by us, but it's feared, in a way, by the collective, because of their programming of fearing it. Because usually when you have religious programming, it tells you that you're unworthy to, like, reach heaven or whatever. And so because of that, people start fearing it. Because I've never encountered anyone that has come from a religious background where they feel worthy and they could diet peace because they know where they're going, which is so bizarre, thinking that that would be something that they're following, like source Or God or a higher purpose. Like why would you feel unworthy when you're already created by that energy? It's just, it's just bizarre, I guess, for lack of a better word. [00:16:31] Speaker A: Well, but if you're, if you're trained in dogma, you know, of unworthiness, which it's not just Christianity, there are other relig who do that too, then you're not going to be welcome into what is considered the next Valhalla or heavenly type place. Yeah, I'm trying to remember the name of the book. I think it's called Journey of the Souls. And I'll have to look. I can look it up in a second when you're talking. When I read that book, it was by hypnotist and he talked to people about what they remember about when they cross over. And you learn some very fascinating things where you know, people are. Their souls are ushered into certain areas and there's healing spaces and things like that. So they. It's interesting to talk to somebody who's tapped into a transitional experience like that so that we can learn from it. And so he had some really good things to share about that based on case studies. And then. Oh yeah, Dolores Cannon, right? Do you want to talk about Dolores Cannon? [00:17:49] Speaker B: Yeah. So Dolores Cannon can't even speak. She was a hypnotherapist, but she specialized in past life regressions. So when she was. She started her work as a regular hypnotherapist therapist. And then she started realizing that she really had like when she started doing it, like when she did just regressions in general, they started coming back to like way before, like ancient times and even lives that they had in other planets. So and. [00:18:21] Speaker A: Or here as elementals. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Yep. Or here's elementals. And she really on her books, if you ever have gotten a chance to check them out, she really talks about different experiences of just how they were in different planes and how they believed to be certain things. And it was just what they. What they ultimately what her biggest teachings were. You cannot get it wrong. You're here for. To expand consciousness in your soul is always evolving. And it's interesting how to grasp that it can be something so just like it seems so simple but yet we get so caught up in programming and obviously I can't like I, I would imagine that other places like other planets and stuff would have like a higher vibration. So maybe the emotions aren't like as much as 3D for example, because with 3 I'm not saying that there are. [00:19:25] Speaker A: I would say different vibration. I wouldn't want to put any value on it. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I wouldn't put any value on it. But what I'm saying is the Earth experience, she said it's truly an experience for like master souls to really master polarity. Because when we come into. We made the contract to come and we decided nobody obligated us to come into the Earth's mission, but boy, that we came to learn. And one of the things that we definitely get to experience is change. Because there's no such. There's no life without change. [00:20:01] Speaker A: Because we're learning about time here. Time doesn't exist in other dimensions. [00:20:06] Speaker B: Exactly. It's just the construct of like the Earth experience. [00:20:10] Speaker A: And part of learning about time is the cycles of nature here, which is Gaius Realm and Gaia's Realm works on cycles of life and death. [00:20:20] Speaker B: Yep. [00:20:21] Speaker A: And we can see that in the animal and plant kingdom. [00:20:24] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:20:25] Speaker A: They. They eat each other, except for they do. [00:20:28] Speaker B: You know, one of the things that has always surfaced up and I've always realized, and this is coming from an approach of even just pets, not even wildlife. Animals are so much more graceful than us when it comes to death because they know it's a part of life. They're not scared of it. In fact, cats behavior as they go, they get away from you and they hide. And then you usually find them and they're no longer alive because they don't want you to suffer for them. They know that this is. This is a natural path. They know that their soul won't. Doesn't just disappear and they're going to come back eventually. But it's so interesting how animals are more graceful about death. And there is obviously the survival parts, like Lola said, like in the animal kingdom, it's all about like, they eat each other and stuff. But by doing that, they create a balance too of like predators and those that are being haunted. And I mean, they go back and they nourish the plants. [00:21:26] Speaker A: But it's also part of the renewal because that's what's bringing life. The death actually brings life. [00:21:32] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:21:35] Speaker A: I don't want to go into any graphic details, so let's just talk about plants. The cow munches on the grass, the grass dies. The cows living. It's vitalized by the grass. So we are here to learn about change. That, yes, one thing goes, but something else is reborn. Always. It always goes hand in hand. [00:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah, because it's like the one. If we could really understand that right after death there's a rebirth, because that's just part of the cycle. And it's a lot harder for us humans to understand that, because I think that what holds us that's different is the emotions. Not that we're saying that animals don't hold emotions, because it's been proven that some animals do their form of respect for their loved ones when they have pets, like elephants. Like elephants, for example. And that. But nonetheless, they kind of like, they understand it's a circle of life and they just continue to go with it. I think if we didn't get so programmed to fear it, we wouldn't have such an issue with it. [00:22:41] Speaker A: Right. But. And I'm hoping that's what the new era we're moving into is going to be more accepting and kinder about the concept of death. Because I want to die in a beautiful way. [00:22:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:22:59] Speaker A: I don't want to die in fear. [00:23:00] Speaker B: No. I want to die peacefully. I want to take a nap. [00:23:04] Speaker A: And that would help if other people would learn to be more open about it. Like, if your loved ones around you, holding space for you in a loving way, wouldn't that just be the best way to go? [00:23:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Speaking of such matters, I want to go back to the book I told you about. So it's called Journey of Case Studies of Life Between Lives, and it is written by Michael Newton. So that's a good book, I think, especially for people who are new to the spiritual path. That's one of the first books I read when I was new, so I understood the concept of that these people are coming back in some other way. And so I think it's a very healthy book to read. So I'm recommending it along with the Dolores Cannon books. And she. She's written many books, but I think that you're talking about her series. [00:23:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:56] Speaker A: Which is the Convoluted universe. [00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:59] Speaker A: There's quite a few books in that series. Plus, she wrote more books beyond that series. Okay. So, yep, we tackled the heavy topic, which shouldn't be heavy. And. [00:24:10] Speaker B: And no. And the thing though, about it, too, not to get too far off the subject, but even those, they're no longer in living form, they still connect with us. They just go through a different plane. It's like you open a door, you get into that door, and you are in a different dimension that you not might not be able to be seen or those that have developed visuals to see spirits can see them, but nonetheless, they're not gone and they're still around and they still connect with you. [00:24:41] Speaker A: Yes. So then within, you know, within our lives, there's going to be a lot of changes going on, too. So when I think the spiritual journey is constant change because you're constantly, like you said, Dolores can. Expanding. We're here to expand our knowledge. [00:25:00] Speaker B: I think our spiritual growth is really interesting based on change because. So we think. We figure, like, we get to a point where we think. Where we figure out a lot of things, and we're like, whoa, I cannot believe that this actually works like this. And that instead of how I thought it worked. And it almost seems like it's a pause. But really what it is, is you're integrating all this new information, and then after you're done integrating, then guess what? You get to level up again. So. So we never reach a full plane, I guess where that would be like saying someone learns everything or knows everything, which is impossible. [00:25:44] Speaker A: If the universe is expanding, it is impossible. We're helping it to expand. If you hear any noises, it's my cat. She's just decided to join us. And it's her tag on her collar, but. So please forgive her. Trust me, she's cute. So I kind of lost track of where we were because Mia was making noises. [00:26:08] Speaker B: We're talking about its spiritual evolution and how. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. Because with the spiritual journey, it's like going up a flight of stairs, right? And you finally. You know, you realize there's a challenge. You're off balance. You finally find ways and techniques, and over time, you balance yourself out. So you feel like you've had a victory, and you go, whoo, that. Isn't that great? And then you look over your shoulder, and you realize there's another flight of steps. You're just on the landing. But that's what we like about it. I mean, we like. Like you said, we're. Dolores Cannon says we're advanced souls here on Earth. We are. We came here. It's like, I don't give me. Don't give me the beginner level. I'm a master player here. Throw me some challenges that. That I can overcome to prove my mastery. And so, congratulations, people. That's what we do as humans here. [00:27:03] Speaker B: And isn't that the beauty, too? Like, I find it, there is beauty within, knowing that everything's always constant, changing, and that the version that you see of yourself now, it's gonna eventually change because it has to. It has to evolve. But that itself brings in such a brighter perspective, because when you're trying to control something, you're trying to contain it, so you don't want it to grow, and you want it to stay. And we find out that that control is within us because there's things outside of us, in fact everything outside of us, we cannot control. But we think we get trained that, oh, you have some sort of control over it. But once you let go and you heal that control, it really becomes fascinating how many like where our growth can come from. And sometimes like when we first start out, it's almost like bombs just being dropped in our head. And it's like, whoa, I didn't never even thought of seeing life that way. But then as you start growing more and more, you have more like epiphanies where you're like, oh, wow, I just realized that I thought something worked this way, but now I'm actually understanding and I'm getting the delivered messages of it actually works in a different way. But before, you wouldn't be able to see it that different way because that's all part of your evolution and change too. As you grow, you start seeing things so differently. It's almost like you have certain things that trigger you when you first start out in. As we heal, we realize, well, those triggers isn't like it's not the people outside that are doing it for you. It's something within you that's being bothered. But once you heal it, you really start to understand it and grasp it in a different way. But not until that happens would you get to that point. [00:28:57] Speaker A: Well, it kind of feels like, almost like an itch. [00:29:00] Speaker B: Yes. [00:29:00] Speaker A: Because your frequency isn't a match for that anymore. So it's. It's slightly an agitating feeling where you go, this, this does. I don't know what's wrong, but I can't keep doing what I'm doing. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:14] Speaker A: And then you finally realize, oh, oh, okay, I was approaching things in a way that wasn't really working. So now let's try this. [00:29:22] Speaker B: Yep. My favorite part about healing is when you approach the same situation that you know flat out that that would just drive you insane. It bother you so much. And then you get to experience that. And now you're no longer bothered by it because you're be able to observe it from a different way. And you realize that anything that truly bothers you is because it's something that needs to be healed. But once you heal it and you acknowledge that part of like the old version of me would have took it this way, but now this new version is no longer triggered by it because there is no more trigger like that has been let go. And see, that's where it's like it's almost the beauty about growth is that you can choose a life of being constantly triggered and being bothered by life, or you can heal it and never have to go back to it or relive that again. As far as once you heal it, you will know that you won't have that trigger going against you. [00:30:23] Speaker A: It's also kind of fun when you see somebody trying to use what used to trigger you. [00:30:28] Speaker B: Yes. [00:30:28] Speaker A: Trying to bait you, and it's just like you just don't. It's like it's. It's not worth the energy anymore to just be enticed into an argument or something. [00:30:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, what's interesting to me, it's also part of the growth, too, of people seeing you with a different light is the one thing that I used to get. And it kind of like, it didn't so much trigger me, but it created some discomfort within because I was trying to figure out what is it that they saw about me back then is they would say something like, oh, you used to be so much funner when you used to drink. And what's so funny about that is that I drink to loss, to, like, let go of who I was, because I was drinking to experience freedom. And so they. The version they saw myself when I was drinking was a false version created by alcohol because it was a way out. It was an escape thing. So now that I understand that, it brings more of an understanding of what they meant. But I'm like, well, so that means you didn't. You never really wanted to meet the true me. You just wanted to see the one that was trying to escape reality all the time. But it's just things that happen and things you realize and things you reflect on. I don't think that's doing it with a malice way. It was just. They just share that example because they really don't understand where you're coming from anymore, because the per. The version that they had of you is no longer relatable to them. So the only way they can try to get to you, just like Lola said, is by bringing things from the past of like, oh, you used to do this. It used to be fun, and now you don't do this. And it's hilarious when they bring that out now because a lot of the times I was like, I don't even remember what I did the night before. So clearly there's no way that could have been me anyways. It was like, me under a substance that I was not even aware of myself. But if that's what they want to hold on to. I mean, that's what they're going to hold on to. It doesn't matter. You could help a hundred people, and then there'll be that one person that's like, I like you better when you used to get drunk. I think that's just the polarity of things. [00:32:52] Speaker A: That was the cat making that noise. She's sleeping. She's not drunk. So we were talking about welcoming change, right? I think it takes a lot of time and practice to get to the point where you actually welcome it on the spiritual journey. Trust me, I've got Capricorn Rising and Capricorn Moon. If I think I don't want to go with the change, I will dig my heels in. So it's been a slow and steady process for me to change, unlike Emeril, who's just, like, on the fast track. But I. I will. If I'm not ready for it, I ain't going to do it. So I know what it's like to fight change. And you know what? It's a losing battle. It takes so much energy to go, I'm not going with that. I'm not. Because what's going to happen, inevitably your higher self, spirit, whatever you call it, is going to put challenges in your way to help you move beyond that. So there have been times where maybe a spiritual teacher, like my tarot teacher, Eli, might introduce a topic to me that I can't wrap my head around yet. And so I'm not. I'm not going there. And I might have to sit on that for a couple months, and all of a sudden I'll have that epiphany and go, oh, I get why you brought that up now. So I think I just want to bring that out there because I think it's kind of natural for us to be resistant to change. Once again. It's the ego wanting to be comfortable. [00:34:30] Speaker B: But also, like, it's interesting because, like, you said, like, obviously you would be more stubborn because you have certain things that will make you more like, okay, well, wait up a second. And I'm on the other way, right? Where I'm like, the fast course. I'm like, bring it in. Change. I want to do, like, I want to heal this, I want to heal that, and I want to heal that. And I'm on the opposite end where I'm doing so much, and then all of a sudden, I literally get knocked out and be like, yeah, crash and burn. How? Why haven't you, like, just in case you forgotten you have a human body that needs to integrate all this changes and all these healing that you've been doing. And so now my new, the new version of me wants to take it easy, wants to digest things, wants to integrate things. Because I've learned that while it did serve a purpose as far as when I first started, I opened up to spirituality when I was quite young. But then something happened and it made me close it up and it stroked such fear that I decided to never touch it again. So. So I was around, I want to say I was around 13 years old when that happened and I was playing a Ouija board and I got freaked out by it and I closed it up and I was like, I'm never going back to that again. Well, when in 2020, when I finally with COVID and stuff, it helped. So it was such a great time because you can always look at things as like, oh, what? Like what is this doing to me? Or you can look at it as like, what is it helping me see? Or what, what is it bringing to me? What lesson am I going to learn from this? And to me it was about seeing inside and seeing the things I liked about myself, which at that time it was like nothing because I've served such a life to cater to others, to never prioritize myself, to not even know who I was. So when I started really working on myself, I went so fast because there was so much time that I put off of like just catering to others and even spirit. When I first started connecting with spirit, the first thing they said is like, you're going on the fast track because you have closed yourself down for so long. We need to speed it up because you need to be in a certain place because you're really needed during this time. This is what you signed up for. But now we kind of have to do the fast paced learning. Little did I know I continue with that fast paced learner learning until I realize, all right, my body is now has had enough and now I have to really learn the other part of it. And that was like really revealing to me. Talk about like a drastic change. So I've been doing past life regressions with Derek Condit, owner of Mystical Wares, which is also our sponsor. And we decided to give it a try and try something completely new and to go with our future self. So we did. She's a hypnotherapist. And we went into the future to connect with my future self. And man was I like. I literally those moments where you just fall on your but. And I like what? Wtf? Because all this fast growing and stuff, turns out that my future self, the part that has the most balance, has learned that in order that this lifetime I'm to find. To find that softness is just as powerful as anything else. So can you imagine we have this fast paced thing going on for so. [00:38:15] Speaker A: Long, which was like, he was like, get this healing. Okay. And we would tell him to rest. He goes, no, okay, well I signed up for this class and this class this week. And then, you know, it's like every week he was doing two. Two things, maybe. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Yes. Or more sometimes. [00:38:31] Speaker A: And so that's why he was being. But you know, but that wouldn't let me go back to what you just said because I had a little ding, ding, ding. When you said it, you said your higher self said that gentleness is very effective. [00:38:47] Speaker B: Yes. [00:38:47] Speaker A: But we were born into this patriarchal system which is warrior type, dog eat dog, screw you before you screw me mentality. So it's very interesting that what your higher self was introducing to you was a new paradigm of more of the gentle, motherly type energy can also move you ahead. [00:39:10] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:39:11] Speaker A: But that's a big lesson, I think, for the whole collective. [00:39:14] Speaker B: I think so too. And I think that that's. This is also a reason why I'm sharing this. Because you can, you can be so like, feel like, oh, I've done so much, I feel so much. In the most humble parts that will come up is when you realize I could be my worst enemy right now. And I could say I suck, I haven't been doing it correctly. Or I can say, okay, so maybe I haven't done things the way I like, my soul wants to do things, but it's never too far to change. [00:39:48] Speaker A: Like no matter what you've been learning. [00:39:50] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:39:52] Speaker A: And no matter what I've been learning, even with my dig my heels in attitude every once in a while. Yeah. So the other thing that was coming to me when you were talking about these changes was that I guess the point being for the people listening is you're not doing however you do it. It's not right or wrong exactly. It's just you have your own personal peccadilloes and you might have a tendency to go quickly or you might have a tendency to hold back, but eventually you're still gonna learn. No matter what, you're gonna continue to expand. So don't put, you don't have to put extra pressure on. But the oh, the other thing I want was realized. It needs to be addressed is the importance of Movement and then rest. Movement and then rest. Movement and then rest. That's all part of change, but it's balance within change. [00:40:44] Speaker B: Yep. [00:40:45] Speaker A: And so what you, what I think you were being told is you weren't allowing the rest. [00:40:50] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:40:50] Speaker A: And I being told you, you're not moving forward, so we have to kick you in the bottom to get you to move forward. But we still end up moving forward and learning. Right. [00:40:59] Speaker B: But think of the opposite ways that we're sitting at. Like for example, like when she's a little more stubborn, I'm like going, but then I'm do, I'm not integrating. And then when she does decide to do things, she knows how to integrate. So it's like no matter what, like my, my so called moving forward, it's really setting me back because eventually my body's going to react to it. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. So if you, when you're on the spiritual journey and you've been burning the candle at both ends, eventually you might crash and burn and just like. I got it. Take a nap for a whole day. [00:41:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:34] Speaker A: Right. Yeah. [00:41:36] Speaker B: But you know what's so interesting too, that now when you put the pieces together and stuff, when I started really like diving into the deepness of my journey, I started really traveling a lot. Right. In somehow some way. [00:41:49] Speaker A: You mean astral traveling? [00:41:50] Speaker B: No, physical, physically traveling, like around the world. [00:41:53] Speaker A: Yes. [00:41:53] Speaker B: In every place I went to, there was always a lot of water and a lot of sources of water, specifically oceans. So now those of you like that may not know this or those even that you have heard about this ocean water, it's so clearing, so any overages, it automatically just gets like, removes them and you just feel so much better. So in a way I was doing shortcuts that I didn't even know I was doing because at that time I was just going through, I was focused on my growth and I'm like, I'm just going, moving forward. And that's the one thing I remember from every place I went to. There was always an ocean and there was always an ocean that I went into by swimming, by just getting my feet wet. And it's such a powerful tool to use that I was, I guess, using. But I was unaware of how this tool was working out for me because honestly, if I, I wouldn't have had that, I would have crashed a lot sooner. [00:42:55] Speaker A: Well, it's gonna affect like your ions. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Yes. [00:42:58] Speaker A: Your magnetic flow. Yeah. At a physical level. [00:43:01] Speaker B: Yep. [00:43:02] Speaker A: Huh. Which, and, and as we like to say, water is the solution. Ask any chemist. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:09] Speaker A: Right. [00:43:10] Speaker B: It's also the world's top solvent. [00:43:13] Speaker A: Mm. [00:43:15] Speaker B: Chemistry. Of course. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Yes. So take. Take your ritual bath if you can't be in the ocean, Right? [00:43:22] Speaker B: Exactly. And just because you don't have a pretty ocean, it doesn't make it not be an ocean. Example. Like, we live in Mount Vernon, so Seattle area. Our oceans are not tropical and hot and they're very cold. But there's no sand. [00:43:36] Speaker A: It's all rocks. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Well, there's some sand in some ones, but just getting your feet wet with it, it's more than enough. It's like all based on intention, so. [00:43:45] Speaker A: Yes. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Oh, and then the other thing too, that creates huge shifts too, that I almost forgot is using, like, full moon's energy, because the full moon is all about letting go of the things that you're no longer aligned with. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Yeah. So you can make a conscious choice to help you make positive change. [00:44:01] Speaker B: And, oh, man, that can be huge. And because I facilitate a breath work class, it always ends up aligning with the full moon cycles. I swear, I don't do it on purpose. It just aligns with it, which is like such a big clearing. In those of you interested in breath work, we have a Facebook page where you can just contact us. I am going to start posting more. [00:44:27] Speaker A: About breath work and welcome to Woo Woo. [00:44:29] Speaker B: Yes, and welcome to Woo Woo Facebook page. Yep. And I will post more of about the breath work in case you would like to join. It is free. It's something that I do for the collective. So you're more than welcome to join. I sent invites through Facebook, so it helps to have a Facebook account. But, man, what else can we put for changes for? [00:44:49] Speaker A: Well, I liked your full moon one, and I'm just gonna throw one out to you because I always allow spontaneously whatever comes to mind for me to release on a full moon. And everybody's like the one that came out for this month. So I'm putting it out there. You guys can borrow this if you want to, because other people have been borrowing it. So I set my intention as I am so grateful now that I am releasing expectations based on lies from the past. I'll say it again. I am so grateful now that I am releasing expectations based on lies from the past. If you like that, write it down and use it for the next full moon and say it for, you know, two to four weeks regularly. So, yes. So that's how you can start to be the magician and work with change instead of fighting change or being resistant to change. So setting intentions is a great way to do it. Not just at moon time, but intentions in general. Right? [00:45:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:57] Speaker A: How else have you kind of learned to work with change rather than fight it? [00:46:01] Speaker B: Well, I think that the first part was we talked a lot about the change. So I think that now we should talk about integrating that change. Like how do we adapt to it, how do we facilitate it so it's the smoothest possible. So a lot of it has to do with self care. And I think self care has been like turned weird a little bit because we get it. Like some people think self care is really about spoiling themselves and you are spoiling yourself. But there's ways to spoil yourself where you're not going into like shopping sprees or things like that. Even though I'm not saying that those may not bring some comfort, but it's just such a temporary comfort. We're talking about true, like self integration time, like napping, about having a reflective moment, like give setting away a time in the morning for you to ground, to let go of anything that's no longer aligned with you, to sage yourself, to use palo santo, whatever you want to use to clear yourself. [00:47:11] Speaker A: I was just thinking too, sometimes it's. It's good to use an affirmative statement. But maybe if you don't feel totally comfortable with the deep dive, you could say something like, I am learning to accept and love change in a graceful way. [00:47:27] Speaker B: There you go. [00:47:28] Speaker A: Something like that. I am learning how to go with the flow of change. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And things also, they're like really good for integration is drinking water, making sure that when you're eating food. I like to always bless my food before I eat it, as well as making sure that what you're choosing to eat is healthier for your body. Like trying to make little changes, you know, on this, like with food and stuff. I used to be. Because I used to work all the time. So like fast foods were like, I would pick up fast food because it was just easy, convenient. And now I'm blessed that with the changes I've done, I'm around a lot of home food, home cooked meals, which are a lot healthier for me. And I'm very grateful for. And I hardly ever eat fast food nowadays. And what I've noticed is that as we integrate and as we start making these changes and really allowing ourselves, our bodies really start changing. Because I mean, I can only speak for myself, but the abuse that I put my body through it meaning, like I wasn't saying that I loved it. I wasn't showing it the true appreciation for it. Once your body Starts listening to you once your body is like, okay, they are for real. They are really taking care of me. We have so many cells in our body. And when you talk to yourself, like, say things like, for example, me with drinking water. Every time I grab, I fill up my water with new water. I say, I love you. Thank you for nourishing me. I always add other things, like, for example, I thank every cell of my body for keeping me healthy and paying for free. And, man, your body just starts changing because think of yourself like a big computer. And anything you're feeding through your mind, through what you're eating, to what you're experiencing, to what you're listening to, it's what your body's taking in and adapting to it. So we can always change patterns. And that's the other thing, too. When. When I first started, I almost felt like my body was not even listening to me because I abused it for so long. I was the type of person that I would let go completely of any fitness or whatever as soon as summer was done. And I would gain as much weight as whatever. And then in January, because, you know, everybody has to go back to the gym in January, I would even get, like, a perfect personal. What do they call them? [00:50:10] Speaker A: A personal trainer? [00:50:11] Speaker B: Yeah, like a trainer. And I would literally be the person that would drop. And I'm not kidding to you guys, because I did it, like, every single year. I would drop from 40 to 50 pounds in two and a half to three months, every single year. So could you imagine what toll my body took? 70. So now what I've learned is I learned that I only have this body during this lifetime. I learned that I have to take care of it. I learned that I have to talk to it in a different way, in a loving way. And I've learned that my body can listen to me once I do. Like, I prove to it that I do want to make these changes in my life. [00:50:55] Speaker A: Okay. One of the things I was thinking while you were talking about this is as far as welcoming change, maybe that's another thing to be aware of, because when you make a change mentally, it's also going to affect you emotionally, spiritually, and physically. Same thing. If you make a change physically, it's going to affect you emotionally, spiritually, and mentally. So it all goes hand in hand. It's actually nothing to fear because it really should be working in tandem. You know, they'll work on different systems at different times. But that shift that you've instigated has kind of a domino effect, doesn't it? [00:51:33] Speaker B: It does. [00:51:35] Speaker A: So it's all good. It's all good. [00:51:38] Speaker B: And I think that the biggest thing that I like with what I was saying is I want to make sure that everybody grasses, that you build a relationship with everything that includes your body, that includes your mind, so be gentle with it. But also, like, realize that constant. You've been under so much program programming your entire life that you need to have grace for yourself. And you need to understand that retraining your mind, your body to hear you out in a different way, in a more loving way. It's going to take some time, but nonetheless, everything can be achieved. And the beauty of change is that it allows us to see the things that haven't worked for us so that we can change them into fitting a more balanced life. Because there's no perfection here. There will never be perfection. None of us can ever be perfect. And what we're trying to do is just share our experiences so that that way you can learn how to change things within you so that that way you are in a more balanced, emotional way of accepting yourself, accepting your body, loving yourself. You know, when was it yesterday I talked about unconditional love. I had no clue what unconditional love was when I first started my spiritual journey, because I had never received anything but conditional love. I had no clue what unconditional love was. So I had to learn that and I had to learn how to apply it to myself first before I could apply it to others. Because as we fill our own cup first and we're able to fill others. But I mean, you would think something as unconditional love would be like something that just everyone's connected to, but it's not. There's so many things in our journey that we hear about it, we understand it in logic, but that doesn't mean we practice it. And I think that our spiritual awakenings really questions that about us is, are we walking the talk? You can't talk about great things and then not practice them for yourself. You can't talk about good change in your lives and then not making the right changes to get to that. So everything is a test and trial. But I just want to. I know we're about to finish the episode, but I just really want to encourage you to start looking at yourselves in a different light. Even if you are the only encouraging light that you have for yourself. And sometimes you feel like people around you for the time being are not very supportive. All you need to do is start lighting up your own light so that that way you can move forward. [00:54:41] Speaker A: Yeah, but sometimes that, that means reaching out to somebody else who's done it so you can learn from them. So that doesn't mean you're. Some people can do it independently. It doesn't mean like you're stuck by yourself. And that's why we do this podcast, because we just want to let people know what we've been through so we can help them and maybe make it change a little more easier on the spiritual path for you. So even mentors need mentors. [00:55:11] Speaker B: Exactly right. [00:55:13] Speaker A: So if, if you need help with someone with, for yourself, don't be of, don't afraid to ask people. Who, who do you recommend? You know, so, you know, that's how we end up finding people to help us. You know, it's like, oh yeah, here's a high level healer, should be really good. Or here's someone who really understands this topic. So. [00:55:37] Speaker B: And sometimes it's as simple as, like, because I know it can be a little bit out of your box to really per se, like go search for someone. Sometimes it's as simple as like get. [00:55:50] Speaker A: A book or YouTube or even just an Internet search to find other people who've been looking at the same topic. [00:55:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:59] Speaker A: That you have. [00:56:00] Speaker B: There's so many, like, great speakers that will really start talking to your soul because what they're doing is they're connecting to collectives that really resonate within you. Example, when I started, I started listening to Abraham Hicks and when I went and saw her in real life, oh man, you guys, the energy that she shifted as soon as she connected to the Abraham collective, it was like, no, I can't even explain it, but there's so many great others that connect. [00:56:29] Speaker A: And you're going to find that certain people appeal to you very much at the beginning of your journey and then you'll move on to some other people later and other people later. And I do think Abraham Hicks is one of the first for most people. [00:56:40] Speaker B: There's Wayne Dyer. [00:56:41] Speaker A: Teal Swan. [00:56:42] Speaker B: Yeah. What was the one which I really have liked her stuff and she's like, she has her own imprint. Louis Hay. [00:56:51] Speaker A: Louise Hay. [00:56:52] Speaker B: Louise Hay. Sorry. But she's great. And you find you can find all of them on YouTube. They have great work that they put out, they have great meditations and I mean, listen to them. If it resonates with them, follow them. If not, it's totally fine. But they're really just talking to your soul. And I think that that's the best way we can communicate. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Okay. And speaking of communication, we want to thank you for listening to us share what we've kind of learned along the way. I hope it was helpful for you. And change. It's going to happen no matter what. So I guess the philosophy is learn to love it. [00:57:35] Speaker B: And I'm hearing change to flourish because really, that's what you're doing for yourself. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Oh, I like that. [00:57:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:57:42] Speaker A: Okay. [00:57:43] Speaker B: Thank you for listening, and we will. [00:57:45] Speaker A: See you or talk to you next time. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Bye.