Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome to Woowooville, the next stop on your spiritual journey, hosted by two fellow travelers who found a soul connection on the path of higher consciousness.
Our goal is to help you navigate the choppy waters you're likely to encounter on your spiritual path by sharing our experiences with you each week. Join us as we spill the tea on what it's like to wake up to your authentic self.
My name is Ameril, and I'm here with.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: I'm Lola Singer, and we have a.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: Special guest with the name of.
[00:00:33] Speaker C: I'm Harmony Frencherhouse.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: Harmony was here for a previous episode about birthing a new paradigm, and if you haven't listened to that yet, I highly recommend it.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: And talk about birthing paradigms. It's all about.
Paradigms are concepts, and sometimes our concepts of reality get challenged, don't they?
[00:00:55] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: And that's what this episode's about. Right? Right.
[00:00:58] Speaker A: So the name of our episode, it's called Everything is Backwards.
[00:01:03] Speaker B: And that might sound kind of cryptic, but we're going to clue you in, and you're probably going to agree with everything we say here, especially those of you who on the spiritual path and kind of see the world with eyes a little differently than the average person.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: And even if the average person hasn't seen it with different eyes, this will give you good insights to, too, on, like, what we mean by, like, going backwards that we realize after we go in the path, too.
[00:01:30] Speaker B: It's all about paradox.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: It is.
[00:01:34] Speaker C: Life is a paradox.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: So I found something online with a list of little tidbits of wisdom that I shared with these two, and we all agreed they're so good that we need to pass these on.
Yep. Because once you see, well, you won't see it. But once you hear us.
I made Amaral laugh while he was drinking.
What? Once you hear these, you're gonna go, oh, yeah. Yeah. That is true. Right, so shall we just dive in and start? We're gonna.
So when you think about everything being backwards, it's kind of like, you know how they always say, like, with the spiritual journey, you know, you have to go into heal, heal without, and, you know, up is down, down is up, and all that. Okay, so why don't we start with our. Our.
Our guest? Would you like to read the first thing that tells us why everything is backwards?
[00:02:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
Control is gained by letting go.
Isn't that true?
[00:02:44] Speaker B: We definitely learned that on the spiritual path. And this podcast is for people who are new to the spirit spiritual journey, so. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Relaxing into it. Allowing receiving.
That was a tough lesson for you, you know, to learn to. Because you're, you're such. I'm looking at Emeril because you're such a go getter. It's like, I'm going to go do this next, I'm going to do this next. So to actually receive and get the downloads and receive the wisdom on the spiritual journey.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: But let me back up with that story too, because it does have a backstory story to it. So I had a controlling mother. So that's where it all started. Now that I'm blaming her, it's just what I was exposed to and I picked up as something of my own story.
So it's interesting because with, to me, every single one of these goes into something. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna share what this connects for me, what this like, brings out out of me. And I think we could all have a story to share. To me, this talks about abundance.
For me, I grew up in a very scarcity mindset. My whole entire life, there wasn't a day where people wouldn't complain about money and they wouldn't complain. They're like, oh, they couldn't pay this, they couldn't pay that. Oh, we can't afford this, we can't afford that.
And when you have your mindset into a controlling way of saying seen life, you can't see past that. So for me, as far as opening up to receiving abundance, what really create, started creating the shifts was letting go of trying to control an outcome, letting go of having that expectation that I needed to control something in order to get something. Because so there's, there's two important abundance that I always like to be like to define them as. Because one, I feel like it's like there's one like financial abundance that's directly with like your finances. However, there's also divine abundance. And what I've learned is financial abundance is very restricted because when you just think of one thing, you're having an attachment to it in your, in your trying to bring it in and you're holding on for dear life. Like, I need this. And whenever we're in the mindset of need, then it doesn't work the best for us. But when we ask for divine abundance, for example, it opens you up on every door because not everything, everything can lead to finance because everything has to circle. But that way, you're no longer putting the pressure of like, it needs to come to me in this form. Instead you're like, I am divinely guided. I Am open to receiving divine abundance. And however it needs to flow to me, however it needs to come to me, I welcome it and I'm open to receive it. And when. I mean, I'm not gonna lie and say it just came over, like, overnight for this because it took a while because there's a lot of things I needed to work out within myself. But once I reached that point, I just allowed it to just come in. And that's what it is, is it's more about tuning into your magnetic way of receiving it rather than your way of controlling it. The more you think about it, the more you control it, the more you allow it to just kind of come on its own, and the more you're open to it.
And it's funny enough, funny enough, we had a drum circle this last Sunday, and on that drum circle, we were working on receiving and giving.
One of the things that I gave advice to is I felt where I was holding myself back the most was on my giving side, because my giving side was so disbalanced instead of my receiving. And only it was because I saw my worth through giving. So for me, in order to feel like I was worthy, I would give, and sometimes I would give constantly and give more than I even had or put others before my own needs.
And that's a huge disbalance. And when you have a disbalance on that, you can't really receive because you're not balanced to create flow.
So that's what it means for me.
I don't know if you guys can follow up with your own stories.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I think that what you're saying about you trying to control the outcome usually backfires on us because you're limiting yourself to other possibilities.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:07:13] Speaker B: But also, when I think of control, I feel like, you know, clenching your fists. You're holding tight, you know, and takes so much effort to, you know, if you.
To. To feel that tightness and control. And when you let go and you allow, it's just you're. You use the word flow, you're with the flow.
So even, like, it almost feels like when you're trying to control a situation, your body even constricts.
[00:07:39] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: You know, and it's like you're. It's like you're closing the door. You're tightening the aperture, and instead of opening it up for more to come.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: That's so cool because you just said something I totally forgot to mention. So control is. Contraction is bringing it in.
Letting go is expansion. And allow it to come in because it opens up from any source that can come in. Yes, and I forgot to say that. Thank you for saying that.
[00:08:05] Speaker B: I think you said it better, but thank you. So thank you.
[00:08:09] Speaker C: I absolutely resonate with both of them. What you guys said it. For me, the letting go process is about divine trust. When we know that everything will flow in the way it's supposed to, we're allowed to allow ourselves to let go and release that control, allow that energy to come in and like you said, Emeril it. It allows us to open up the doorway for things to get to us. Because if we think, oh, I'm going to control this because I want it to happen, to get from point A to point B, this must happen. And our subconscious actually limits our potentialities because then when we think it has to look like from point A to point B, we miss all of the other ways that we could have gotten there. You know, if like say for instance, somebody says, you know, I, I gotta work really hard and save all this money for this to happen and I have to control the scenario, they forget, like somebody could actually come into the picture and bypass money and work all together and in divine alignment. You would miss that if you thought that it had to be from point A to point B. And that's what it has to look like instead. Like, you know, if, if we open up that space and allow things to flow in, then subconsciously there is. You're not telling yourself that it has to get from. It has to look a certain way.
When we want to control things, we're coming from a point of lack where we think it's not already happening or we think that things aren't already unfolding for us. And when we know that things are already unfolding, it allows it all to fall into place. And then we actually do gain the actual control because we realize that we're the divine in itself.
[00:09:56] Speaker B: Well, I think we all agree on this concept, so we'll move on to the next one.
[00:10:01] Speaker C: 1.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: I'll read this one.
Being seen requires dropping the mask.
Well, when you're wearing a mask, you actually are trying not to be seen.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:10:13] Speaker B: And we all wear masks. It's a social conditioning that we have. Yeah, and we've talked about this before. You know, there's certain masks we wear that still feel authentic. Like I'm gonna, I'm gonna have a different posture eating a meal in a five star restaurant than I am eating at home in front of, you know, watching a movie. Right.
So that's a mask, you know, okay, When I'm in this place, I'm gonna, you know, have a different kind of deportment, but that still feels authentic. Well, I think what we're talking about are the masks of social conditioning that we hold on to so dearly because we're so afraid of other people's opinions of us. But then that's kind of interesting because there's the parrot paradox. Even if they're judging you, they're judging your mask. So still not you, right?
So we. The last. The episode we did with Harmony was all about authenticity.
And so, you know, constantly changing. We're constantly growing. We're constantly shedding old perceptions ourselves and dropping masks.
And there's such a liberation when you get to that point where you go, you know what? I'm just going to be me.
And I think you could probably talk on that a little bit.
[00:11:25] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. When you're worried about what other people think, you are absolutely limiting yourself. You're limiting your true authentic expression and your highest divine potential timelines. Because, for instance, like, when my kids were little, I was constantly worried about what people thought about me, how I was parenting, what my kids were doing.
And by my third child, I started to realize that it didn't matter what other people were thinking. If I was being the most authentic and if I was doing the best that I could for my kids, that's what mattered. And it didn't matter what role, how I looked, what. What I was wearing, how I, you know, discipline my children in public. If it's not authentic to me, I didn't feel like that's the way I wanted to do it. And then the very beginning, when I first had my first kid, I literally would nurse my baby. Anytime I was in public, in front of any person, I would have a blanket over the baby, over myself, hiding. And by my third kid, I was literally up on stage. My baby's like, I need food. I was like, here you go. I was covered with my hair a little bit, you know, like.
And my baby needed the milk. Right then my baby got the milk, and I actually got praise.
Wow, that was really amazing. Thank you for doing that. Thank you for, like, taking care of your child in that moment and still going on and, like, still talking on the mic and, like, wow, I've never seen anything like that before. And if I wouldn't have done that, if I would have just been like, oh, my gosh, sorry, kid, you can't have milk, or, sorry, people, you can't have this conversation right now. Someone would have been missing out on that moment. And that authenticity allowed for such a beautiful moment for mothers to experience for other people, fathers, other people all over, across the board, to experience on a different level than they were used to experiencing. And I was in my most authentic self, and that was what most mattered the most. And if I felt like I needed to change the way that I looked at it, that would be a huge part about, like, compromising myself and changing who I am to conform to what other people think. And in that when, you know, like, just the simplest thing of, like, wearing an actual mask that is, like, you know, your.
What you. How you want people to see you, that's not actually who you are. And in order to really be authentic, you can't let other people project their stuff onto you. It's just. It's not who you are. So in that I definitely agree that we are dropped, by dropping our masks, we are totally seen for who we are.
[00:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah. And a lot of it is, you know, we're starting to find out, too, that the paradigms we were trying to fit into were manufactured for us.
[00:14:18] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: And they're not satisfying overall. They're not designed. They're designed to the parameters that we live under.
Every day, going to work, you know, driving on the freeway and all that. Every day, five days. Well, five days a week, at least for most people. It's just not fulfilling for us. So why are we trying to pretend it's not?
[00:14:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: I'm sure you have something to say about this, though.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I was going to use an example of my life, actually, so before COVID and I guess that's what each one of us needs to ask themselves. How heavy of a mask are you carrying? And are you in by. By using this mask? Is it something that's giving you satisfaction? Is it something that's giving you peace in life?
Or is it something that is totally making you avoid certain relationships, certain connections, certain ways that you want to be seen? An example for me was before COVID I was wearing a mask every single day. I had no idea who I even was. Like, literally, I had fallen into the system. I worked two jobs. I worked as an instructor and I worked as a hairstylist.
I was so busy all the time because I realized later on, as I started healing, it was a mass for me to try to hide the fact that I felt no joy. So I couldn't have that. Free people that usually have that free time is because they're doing things. They're, like, experiencing things. I couldn't because I was so Wrapped up in a mask of.
I have catered my life so much to what others thought of me, people pleasing others, that I had no clue who I was.
So it wasn't until, like, and this is where you turn from any negative situation, you can turn into a positive. Covid was the one thing that somebody finally put a mirror in front of me and asked, what do you like about yourself? And I said absolutely nothing. Because I had never worked on myself. I had never worked on my inner work. I didn't know who I was.
And. But from that moment, because I had the time to look within, I started my awakening. And I decided that the weight of that mask was way too big for me to carry anymore because that was never who I was.
So a lot of the times I meet people from my past and they're like, what the hell happened to you? And I was like, I just got rid of, like, who I wasn't to become who I am. And that also creates a separation. There's people that are not going to be ready to really see you for your true light. But then at the same time, everyone has a choice. And as I said, you choose how much weight you want to carry with that mask. Because every mask we wear, especially when they're such deep trauma based masks, they have a weight to your life.
[00:17:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:17] Speaker A: So, yeah, that's my story.
[00:17:19] Speaker C: Yeah. And to bring back to Covid, just this thing came up for me for a second is the projection on other people that they didn't care if they didn't wear one.
And that is like a parallel to kind of like our realities saying, like, oh, well, you don't care about your neighbor if you're not living this life or if you're not projecting this part of you out. But really, when you know 100% that you care, it doesn't matter what mask you're wearing, you know you care. You know you're a caring person, and no mask can ever prove that. And you just live authentically and. And you're able to just interact with people on the level of caring without this device being the proof.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Exactly.
I guess when we're really narrows it down to is once you really don't care and you just become who you are, you drop a mask.
[00:18:12] Speaker B: So, yeah, and then you're really seen, which is the paradox.
Okay. Would you like to read the next one?
Am I wrong?
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Oh, sure. I was like, who?
Peace arrives when you stop needing it, man. This one. Are you like, did you purposely pick this for me?
I had like, might as well Been a freeway of thoughts running through my head 24 7. All the time. I saw myself as almost like a machine, because I saw myself of what. What I could do at work, what I was capable.
When I was an instructor, I was doing, like, three jobs at once. It was insane.
But then there was that time where I finally drop the craziness in the outside world and tune into me that I found peace. And it sounds so, like, kind of like, so easy to be done, but it's not. And the reason why I'm saying is I'm just being real with you guys.
We get choices, and the choice is, do you choose the craziness outside of you, or do you choose your piece? And how much are you willing to do for that inner peace?
And when you stop, like, you can't claim peace. That's not something that happens naturally. But when you stop needing it, like, meaning, like when you reach that point of your finally within you, reaches that piece point, it's like you're not looking for it. You just become it.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: Yes.
Yep.
[00:19:53] Speaker C: Yeah. I think that goes back to the subconscious. Like, when you tell your something yourself that you don't have something, or you tell yourself that you want something, you're literally telling yourself you don't already have it. So if you're like, I need some peace, I project that I, you know, really want this peace. I need to go and have this moment of peace.
You're telling yourself that peace isn't already within you. You're telling yourself that peace isn't all around you. Peace isn't wherever you walk, wherever you go. It's not, you know, around everywhere. Your subconscious literally thinks that it's outside of itself, that it's something that it needs to go find or something that needs to have a certain projection of what that looks like in order to experience. Like, you need point A to point B to experience peace, you know, but really the peace is already within yourself. So once you become peaceful, you don't need it anymore, because the peace is just there.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Yes. But what I think about, and it goes with this even deeper than you're going, is with me being a Gemini, I can talk about this for days.
It's the light and dark within you. Yeah. And when you're feeling that shame, feeling for who you think you shouldn't be.
[00:21:08] Speaker C: Right.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: You're never gonna have peace. So it's not until you start shining a light on what you're talking about, the subconscious, your subconscious fears, your subconscious desires so that you can make peace within yourself.
Then you'll find peace. It's not outside of yourself. It's not a goal like you were, you know, project. If people are projecting onto.
So it.
And it's part of what Amaral saying, too. It requires effort. It requires you to take an honest look at yourself. It actually requires you to drop your own masks from the previous section in order to say, all right, at this point, I don't like this about myself. Why not?
And that's the first step towards starting to make peace with it.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: I find the craziest thing that I.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: Like.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: People, like, think like, oh, money can buy you everything. Well, money can't buy you peace. And where I have seen, the thing is there'll be, like, friends that will go on vacations.
They have these beautiful, like, beach things. They'll post these things, and they go with all their thoughts, and all their thoughts don't leave their head. So they don't have that peace. And. And instead of honoring that piece, they allow, like, their chaos to just come with them. And they come back and they're like, oh my gosh, like, I'm still tired.
[00:22:32] Speaker C: Yes.
Or people that will, you know, spend thousands of dollars on ceremonies or things to get to certain goal points, but really, like a near death experience or a dream or things like that can bring that same awareness to them. It doesn't have to necessarily be this thing that you have to buy and go and travel to and, you know, have an experience. Like, literally it's within you, and that helps you to let that all unfold. Once you realize that.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: Yeah, we all said it comes from within, didn't we? All three of us. So that's the paradox that arrives when you find it within, and that's when you stop needing it. So, Halmerni, would you like to read the next one?
[00:23:16] Speaker C: Yeah. You receive when you stop grasping.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: I mean, you can understand that even at a physical level.
Yeah.
[00:23:23] Speaker C: And it brings me back to, you know, when we were at the light language drum circle and our hands, right. That if you're grasping and your hands are closed, your hands are closed, you cannot open up your receiving hand if you're grasping. If you're grasping for things, reaching for things to make you contented or to feel like you're actually receiving something, then you're actually not giving yourself that space to just be a receiver.
It's like dialing into a radio station. If you're constantly changing the station, you can never receive it. Right. So that grasping of the hands is kind of like that, like closed changing of the stations. You're never really able to open up and allow that vessel to receive what is meant for it.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: I had a really interesting thing that just happened to me, like a couple days ago.
I was at work and I just got done with my client and I was stepping out and both of my co workers were having a conversation about work and how like, oh, I really need to work harder because I need to bring more money in and all this stuff. And it was so interesting because I paused because I realized that at that point, no matter what I could have said, they would just wouldn't have understand. It would have been over their heads.
But I just thought, like, it's so interesting.
I have, like, a funny story to share with you guys. Ever since I started doing hair, you know how there's those stylists that.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: Are.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: Like, oh, I'm booked like three months in advance. If that would have been my case, I would have stopped doing hair in the first year. And I've been doing hair for 23 years because I made this pack. First it was subconsciously, but then it was like later on it became more solid. I said, I don't need to get overwhelmed with having all these craziness where I don't have any time off. Instead, show me how it is to be at flow. So now what happens is by the time I reach the end of that week, I usually already start on the next week and I start filling it up. And that's how it's been for 23 years. Talk about not only having trust, but having that balance.
And I'm very grateful for hair because I have mentioned that I'm stepping out, but at the same time, while I'm doing it, I'm going to be graceful for it. And at that time when, when my, when my co workers were like, so grasping and I could just feel their energy of like, so grasping for like, work and money and stuff. And not that I'm saying, like, there's such a, like, thing as a wrong or right. It's just more about, like, learning.
I once upon a time was there and I felt that way, but it just.
Things shift when, when you allow yourself to ship within.
The way you see life is so different in any harsh action such as grasping, such as, like, wanting to control things are no longer present and then you open up to endless possibilities in, yeah, it takes work, but at the same time, it's all about your mind and working with your mind and seeing what things really align with you and what, what things bring joy and what things don't. Bring joy to you.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: Okay, well, I think we all agree on that one.
So the next one is surrender is the doorway to real strength.
And just like when you said, was this all about you? This one's all about me because I came in with that warrior attitude. And I know there's going to be people in the audience because I talked and I talk to these people doing readings all the time with. We came in to be warriors. We came in. This patriarchy has to go.
It's time for change. We're going to kick some bottom. You know, this is going to be the time. This is the era where we're, we're going to make this shift happen. Right.
And that, I found out, is not the approach this time.
So all of you people with that warrior spirit or memories of being warriors in past lives are like, this is why I volunteered to be here now. I'm going to be the greatest warrior. We're going to move this through.
No, it's. Relax into the change. The feminine's coming in now.
We've had a matriarchal system for thousands of years that went a little askew when they started enslaving men and belittling men. So then there was the pushback, and we're at the end of the pushback, and we can see the patriarchal has gone to an extreme stream. And now the feminine needs to come in to harmonize with the masculine, not for the matte mask and to do. To do its usual job. I finally had the epiphany one day because I put my fist together, my left foot, my left fist, and my right fist, and I looked at them and went, the patriarchy is just these two fists clashing and hitting each other. That's not getting us anywhere.
So the warrior system this time is stealth, calm, quiet, go around things like water goes around a rock, the masculine goes through the rock, the water goes around the rock.
So, yes, surrender is actually the doorway to real strength.
Using that as an example. But in general, in life, too, you know, it goes back to, do I want, do I want to plow through things, or do I want to work with people and allow people to come to me who can help me or, you know, anyway, I, I, I, I, I digress. I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass it on to Amaro because I can see he has something to say about this.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: Just gonna say, I just feel like this one is specifically. Is really interesting to me and funny in a way, because.
So I'm a Scorpio in on My alignment is like. There's a lot of Capricorn. There's even a Leo. So it's stubborn, headstrong. In my rising sun is a Taurus. So it's like super. Like the.
And then when I. All of a sudden I was going through and I was revising with a friend what I was, like, going through and what. My thing to learn during this lifetime and my thing to learn is the power of softness. Now, tell that to a Scorpio, a Taurus, and a Capricorn. To be soft, it's like, are you kidding me?
[00:29:59] Speaker C: Right?
[00:30:02] Speaker A: And a Leo. Let's just sprinkle a little Leo in there.
[00:30:05] Speaker B: So I'd love to hear Harmony's thoughts on this, because we. You really are a good embodiment of divine feminine. You know, I think you've really learned how to go with the flow.
What do you have to say about surrender is the doorway to real strength?
[00:30:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it's definitely part of the divine feminine energy.
Like you said, the warrior energy. It kind of reminds me of when we're in that state. It kind of goes back to the first one. Control is gained by letting go. Right. The more of a warrior energy you are, often the more you feel like you're resistant, the more you feel like you need to change something.
And when we step into that place of allowing and trusting and moving through with flow, we allow ourselves to really find that strength in the surrender. And it reminds me of, like, giving birth, because when you are having contractions, and the contractions are they basically take over you, and you want to fight them. You want to, like, curl up into a ball, and you want to just, like, basically be done with it all at that point, because it's just like. It's like cramps to the 10th degree. Right? And so for me, I experienced that feeling of needing to, you know, control, needing to, like, clench up and not surrender. And it was only when I actually surrendered, I was able to step through that doorway. And then the strength came in to where I was actually feeling stronger than I ever was because I surrendered to the Great Spirit. Because I surrendered to the flow of my body, knowing what it was supposed to do. And. And that lack of resistance allowed all that flow to come in, allowed me to step into that. That place of, you know, I am able, I am powerful, and I am, you know, going to get through this just like many have before this. And the more you fight something, the less flow you have. And that's literally like, what your body goes to through 100%.
[00:32:15] Speaker B: And that goes at a high spiritual level, too.
Because one of the hardest things for me with that warrior spirit was to realize it takes much greater strength to surrender.
[00:32:30] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Than to fight.
[00:32:32] Speaker C: Yeah. And that was. The other piece is like, we. We're conditioned with the word and the perception of the word surrender. That. That means you lost the war.
Right.
But that's not really what it means in the tense we're talking about.
[00:32:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it's more the thy will, not my will.
[00:32:46] Speaker C: Yeah. It's. It's more like, okay, there's a greater than I can. No one wins a war, so we got to stop fighting.
That's what real surrender is, is saying the only way to win is to let all of this turmoil go.
And that's how we really. That's a win win world. When we can create, everybody wins.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: I always connect it to surrender is you reach the point that you've done everything you possibly can to for something, and that comes from you. Surrender is the part where you're like, realize, I've done everything that I can.
[00:33:23] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: And then after that, it comes to the trust that everything's gonna work out, everything's gonna come your way. Every situation, whatever it is, is gonna get worked up. So I find those two to go so well together, but also the definition of each one of, like, which one represents you. Because a lot of the times I think that when people say surrender and trust, they kind of get confused on those two. But to me, that's what it feels like and that's what it really.
That's how it's taught me a lot.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: Well, in tarot, that would be the fool. That's ultimate surrender and trust. He's just, wherever.
Okay.
I'm divinely led. I don't know where I'm going. I'm trusting, and it's all going to work out fine.
[00:34:03] Speaker C: I'll learn to fly if I have to.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:34:07] Speaker C: Remember how to fly.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: I should say so. Would you like to read the next one, Amerl? Go around a circle.
[00:34:14] Speaker A: Restoring power starts with softening.
This is really interesting because immediately when I read this one, I thought about the conversation Harmony and I, Harmony and I were having before we started the podcast about how nowadays you have people that are really passionate about making this change. Right. And they want to go. And they're like, I'm going to go on strike for, like, for this thing I feel so strong about in because I'm going to fight off this power. But it's. If the universe goes by feeling emotion, what you're having Such a strong emotional tie to is what's going to manifest. So it actually does the opposite of what you're looking for. And then that one's really hard to explain because you need to understand it from an energetic point of view and an emotion, because what makes your energy be stronger is emotions.
So a lot of the times when you explain it to people, like, for example, we all know there's so much going on right now out there and things that we're not like, we see and we're like, okay, we're not, not happy about that. But the more emotion and the more energy you put into how frustrated you are and how angry you are, and the more you're, like, putting that energy out there and you're, like, striking against, like, all these things, the more you're actually giving into it. And this is a perfect explanation of working backwards in a way, because literally, like, you think you're doing one thing, but really it's like going against what you're doing or trying to do.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: It's creating more tension.
[00:35:55] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: Well, as a warrior type, softening was hard. And, and it's kind of like what you were saying with your zodiac signs. Softening was a challenge for me.
I, I, I to to learn to approach things with a more softer touch, shall we say?
Some people probably think I still have a way to go on that, but that's me being authentic and dropping masks. I talk to people directly, and I talk to them as if they have a great deal of intelligence.
But some people think I'm a little too direct. But I have actually had to learn to soften myself because I was so hard and so jaded and so cynical.
So the softening, I couldn't. I could, but that's when everything tips too far in the wrong direction, and then you start looking for something else. And I wouldn't have gone on the spiritual path if I'd kept been so cynical and hard.
So for me to soften into, like, okay, instead of fighting the system, there's got to be something better. And I think that's what leads a lot of people into spirituality. They start to see that the system is broken. And of course, you go through all of those grief things, the anger and the disbelief and all that, but then you get to finally get to the point, like I did, where I was paranoid, where I went, there's got to be something better. And then you, I softened into. What is the better? The better is these gentle solutions we've been talking about and the allowing.
[00:37:41] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: Okay, you guys Are learning a lot about me psychologically today.
[00:37:47] Speaker C: Yeah. I would say restoring power, I think of, like, the flow of, like, electricity, power, and restoring that power. If the power is out, there's. You could be as controlling and hard and aggressive as you want, but the only way to get it to flow again is. Is by fixing whatever put the power out and then being in trust and being in softness and know that that power will restore its flow, you know, And. And it's like that with our own personal power. The more we're hard, the more we're aggressive and we want to, you know, just get it done our way or the highway kind of energy, then that power doesn't flow.
It doesn't. It's not.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: People are going to resist.
[00:38:34] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like, cut off. It's like power outage here, power outage there, power outage here. Maybe it's flowing here. But not everybody gets that flow. So when everyone softens into that, then that flow comes forth from the divine to guide us to wherever we need to be.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: Well said. Okay. Harmony, Would you read the next one, which I think might be my absolute favorite on the list here?
So we just did Restoring power.
[00:39:01] Speaker C: The soul speaks when you are silent.
I love that.
I definitely.
My moments of silence are when I receive some of my most powerful insight.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: Yes. And so that's.
The soul doesn't speak loud usually. It's a whisper.
Yep, it's a whisper.
And you need to be calm, you need to be quiet, you need to be still. Then the feminine mode, the receiving mode, to get the input. It's not always. It's always what you hear. It can be. It's a lot of times, it's what you're feeling.
You'll get these aha. Moments where you go, breakthrough. Oh, my gosh, an epiphany.
And to put it on a more mundane level, I know that when I get a download. An epiphany, it's when I'm in. We've talked about this before in a very relaxed state. So for me, it's usually in the shower.
For Amaral, he gets very relaxed when he drives, and he gets insights while he's driving. I'm sure some of the people in the audience could relate to both of those, and that's something tangible that you can remember, like. Oh, yes. When I'm calm and I'm relaxed, the flow does come to me.
And the. And the growth comes to me. And the insights I need. What do you have to say about that?
[00:40:31] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. For me, some of the most important silent times are like, when I'm having struggle, when I'm feeling off balance, or, for instance, like my.
Like, I'll give people, you know, information, and they don't seem to remember it. And so I'll go into, like, a meditation because I'm upset that, like, people aren't remembering what I'm sharing. And then I receive this download because I'm allowing myself to get quiet with myself and really, like, open and receive what divine guidance is there for me. Because I'm at a point where I need to find clarity. So I silence myself. I go into a meditation, and like clockwork, every time I get a divine download image or some kind of message that comes through. And in that instance, it was, you know, that we are all, you know, supposed to receive what we're, you know, able to receive at the time. Each human has to get more than one source, and my source was their first source. There was the planting those seeds. And then it helps me to find clarity in that, you know, we're all going through this path, and we're all in the human condition trying to navigate these truths. And as we download these information into our hearts and into our minds and really collaborate that and fuse it together, together, then we start to get that clarity of, you know, this is the reason why these are the people that needed to hear that information from you. You volunteered because you don't have to have your ego fed. You don't have to, you know, be given credit in order to, you know, get this message out there. And then because I was able to quiet myself and receive that download, then I'm able to navigate those relationships with these people in a. In a place of gratitude, where I'm like, wow, I got to be your first source. Instead of being like, man, that sucks. You don't listen to me. You don't care about me. You know, that kind of energy, when we just silence ourselves, we're able to really, like, connect to that highest divine information that can come through and help guide us and keep us in a space of, you know, centeredness.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of distractions trying to keep us. Keep us from not being silent.
[00:42:58] Speaker C: Right.
[00:42:59] Speaker B: So if you can, you know, like, even something. For me, I'm living by myself. I often would turn on. On television or radio or music just for some noise. And I have. I've learned in the morning that my favorite thing now is the morning, because that's my quiet time.
That that's when I meditate a little bit, do some breathing. Do some drumming, and I love it.
So I think we can all talk about how wonderful that is.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: I have a really cool thing to share because spirit is, like, nudging me. But so what we're going through is the soul speaks when you're silent.
So when I'm asking the audience as a test is, what voice do you hear when you're silent?
Because that will tell you right there how, like, it's. It's just more of redirection. It's not that you're doing anything wrong. It's just, what are you allowing to live?
Who are you allowing to speak to you? So if it's your problems, if it's your stress, even if it's your kids, if it's your spouse, then the moment you get silence, that's what you're hearing, because that's what you're trying to figure out.
But in order for soul to speak is you have to choose your own peace. You have to cultivate your own peace so that you can start hearing your own soul speak to you.
In. When I started, I had drowned it out my soul for so long that I was like, I don't even know how I could connect with this. I don't even know how to meditate. I don't even know how to, like, do any of this. But what I started realizing is what we choose to give life to in our lives, that's what starts, like, ruling our lives. So when we listen to that stress, to whatever complaint we want, we're getting away from soul, really speaking to us, from hearing ourselves, from hearing that guidance. So I would encourage you to take that time into yourself to just.
In a. When you get quiet, when what are you listening to? And maybe start prioritizing what you do want to listen to. So in other words, give yourself a time. Like, give 15 minutes of your day, 30 minutes of your day where you're just there. And whenever you hear, like, a stress, just pretend it's a car. It's just passing by.
Don't just let it pass. The more you do this exercise, the more you're going to be able to change your thoughts into creating more peace with within.
[00:45:35] Speaker C: Yeah, I love that. It kind of goes back to what Lola was saying about how the, you know, divine self, the universe, the spirit, it whispers.
[00:45:42] Speaker A: Y.
[00:45:43] Speaker C: It doesn't. It's not the voice that's yelling at you, telling you, oh, you. You got to control this. You got to do this when you're silent. Like, it's. It's the actual voice when you Actually quiet all those thoughts that aren't necessarily even yours. They're just the thoughts that you're trying to process, like you said. And you quiet all that down and then just allow yourself to open the grasp and then receive and allow that love, nourishment, guidance, whatever that is to come through. And it doesn't have to be a hundred percent silent around you. It's when you silent all the noise within yourself, you know, because like sometimes I need, I love music and music will inspire me and help me get those different downloads and, and other times it's like I need it for fully quiet all around in order to get into that space. But each, each moment's different for each person. And getting into that place of silencing all the self chatter, all of the stuff that's going on within, allows us to hear those whispers, those divine whispers. And, and the more we listen, the more we're tuned into that station and then the more that it's. We're able to hear it because our receivers are there for it comes more natural.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:46:58] Speaker B: Okay, I'm gonna read the next one. And it's a doozy.
You guys ready?
[00:47:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: You can't escape what you refuse to feel.
This is one of the biggies on the spiritual path, isn't it? Yeah.
That's what we would call our shadow work.
Shadow work is when we're looking at the parts of ourselves that we've tried to tuck away and we sometimes have succeeded. It's purely in our subconscious. We're just due to conditioning, trauma, things from the past that cause us shame.
And when you start to learn to love all aspects of yourself, it requires you on the spiritual path to feel the feels.
So as part of shadow work, you're going to cry.
You're going to cry for the wounded child. You're going to be angry for the injustices you felt.
You're going to be resentful.
But it doesn't last.
It needs to be acknowledged. You need to shine a light on it. You need to feel it in order to heal it.
I know that sounds cliche, we've heard it before, but it's so true.
And trying to escape and trying to hide those feelings deeper in the darkness gives them even more strength.
So your job is to try to neutralize them. You're not fighting them, you're just like your name, harmonizing, neutralizing them. You're accepting all parts of yourself.
So it does require you, it really does require you to feel the emotions you've been trying to avoid all your life. But it is going to liberate you and cause you to become a whole new person into Phoenix.
Anybody else want to add into that?
[00:48:54] Speaker A: I, I honestly the first thing I thought when I read this was I thought of my mom.
And the reason why I thought of my mom, it's not, it is a, it's a down thing is just that I, I think as empaths we truly want to help others. And she comes up because she refuses to feel anything that's really like strong that she should face in life. She just chooses to shove it under the rug.
And man, that rug is like so full now. And a lot of the times I feel like I want to help her, but I can't really help someone that can't help themselves. So when she's trying to escape by not by refusing to feel, that's a choice and that's. We all have free will.
And I feel now that I can confidently say that I don't know everything, but of course I can confidently say that I don't know everything, but I can say that our loved ones are the true tests we got to deal with because they sure they showed us a lot of big lessons.
[00:50:01] Speaker B: Oh yeah, that reminds me of what my brother in law said. I just love it when he was marrying my, my brother, I didn't know him very well and you know how weddings are, right? All that stuff beforehand. And my brother in law said to me, you know why, do you know why it's so easy for your family to push your buttons? I said, why? Because they put them there.
I love you. Welcome to the family.
[00:50:32] Speaker C: Yes, that is profoundly said.
Yeah, I believe that like when we suppress or we try to escape things, we're actually like giving more energy to that for that to continue.
We're trying to escape something that is being gifted to us for a reason of growth.
Sometimes that allows us to see what it is. We're actually trying to shed light on what we're trying to feel when we, you know, when we don't want to, when we refuse to feel those energies, that's when we get stuck in the trap. Because it's fight or flight. It breaks down to the nervous system, the sympathetic nervous system is fight or flight. And when we're trying to escape, that's where we get fight or flight. That's where we are being you know, shown this space of like trying to escape something. And that's where our subconscious does not allow us to feel we're in a, in a place of survival. And so Once you drop that, then you can actually go into that place.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: Of feeling, and it leads us to one of the most beautiful gifts, which is forgiveness of self.
[00:51:44] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:45] Speaker B: And then ultimately, forgiveness of others.
Okay, Amaral, would you like to read the next one?
[00:51:52] Speaker A: The path appears when you stop looking.
That is, like, so funny because.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: So.
[00:52:03] Speaker A: When I started my awakening journey, not having a clue of what the heck I was doing, I thought it was like a race.
So I was going 100 miles per hour. I don't even know how much shadow work I did per, like, every week, including meditations and other things.
And then I learned this thing called integration.
Forceful integration, I may add, because I wasn't. I wasn't blocking myself or whatever. But what it was. It was. It was so extreme because instead of going so fast forward, if I would relax and allow things to just come through at their normal pace, I would have gotten to where I even am, even further than where I am now, probably because it's like, it works the opposite. You get the profound path, the one that really teaches you things when you ease up and you don't go so crazy on, like, going so fast.
[00:53:13] Speaker C: Right?
Yeah. I believe that, like, the. The perception of going fast is a misconception of time. Kind of like, it reminds me of when we're trying to get somewhere really quick, and the faster we try to go, the more stops come and the more people and accidents and things like that. When you just release and you're like, I'll get there when I'm supposed to get there, all of a sudden you're there, and you're there five minutes before you thought you were to get there.
[00:53:36] Speaker B: So. And then I'm thinking about what you told us earlier about, you know, like, you. You're just kind of trusting that the certain situations that are beneficial for you are just showing up. And that has happened for you, certain people, certain places.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: Yep.
But it didn't happen when I was going 100 miles per hour, I can.
[00:53:56] Speaker C: Tell you that much, because you can't even see what's going by.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: Exactly. Not only that, but I have to revisit the lessons because I never really stop to acknowledge them.
[00:54:06] Speaker B: Oh, you do need a little time to act.
What's the word? I can't Acclimate. Acclimate to them. Yes.
[00:54:14] Speaker C: Yeah. And that goes right into the next one, where you grow faster. Or the medicine is hidden in what you judge.
It's because, like, the more we judge something, the more it's resistance to us. It's showing us something within ourselves that we can work on. Yeah, It's. It's showing us. And. And often the more you judge something, then that will come into your life in some form later on to show you how you can be more compassionate, to show you how you could, you know, interact with that scenario on a different level.
[00:54:45] Speaker A: Yeah. And I love the next one because it says, pain dissolves as soon as you understand it.
[00:54:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:54:50] Speaker A: I wish I would have, like, had that one imprinted in my forehead when I started my.
Because pain comes from not shining the right light. Because everything painful that you have gone through has a lesson for you and an understanding.
And when that.
When that happens, it just allows you to. When you look at it in the right light, it really comes out, and it serves as a lesson. It serves as what you actually need to understand about it, and you're able to forgive yourself, forgive those involved, and let it go. And it just dissolves.
[00:55:30] Speaker C: Yes. And pain is like an indicator. It shows us something is out of balance. So once we look at it and once we see what's out of balance, then it can go away.
[00:55:39] Speaker B: Yes, but you have to acknowledge it.
[00:55:41] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:55:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
Okay, I'm acknowledging that. We have about two minutes left here, and there's a few more on the list. We should. We just read what they are real quickly. Okay, so we're gonna let you guys ponder the rest of these about everything is backwards.
So we just did the one about pain.
So the next one is when you avoid fear, it runs your life.
[00:56:08] Speaker C: A good opportunity to check out the last episode. We talk all about that.
[00:56:13] Speaker B: The one with Harmony.
Okay. Okay. And next one is certainty is the opposite of wisdom.
[00:56:20] Speaker A: Yes. Don't let your ego get on the way.
[00:56:22] Speaker B: It's like when you.
[00:56:23] Speaker C: The more you think you know, the less you know.
[00:56:25] Speaker B: And that's why you said the only certainty is that you don't know everything. Yeah.
[00:56:29] Speaker C: The only constant is true.
[00:56:30] Speaker B: You said that earlier.
Okay, next is when you try to transcend, you bypass.
[00:56:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:56:36] Speaker C: That goes back to driving too fast in that story.
[00:56:39] Speaker A: When you're doing it as fast as possible, you don't transcend. You bypass. You jump over it. You need to slow it down, learn what it's really about and move on.
[00:56:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:49] Speaker B: And our final on the list of everything is backwards is healing starts when resistance ends.
[00:56:58] Speaker C: So true.
[00:56:59] Speaker A: So true.
[00:57:01] Speaker B: So thank you, everyone. We'll let you sit with those other little pearls of wisdom yourself. But in the meantime, this was fun.
[00:57:08] Speaker A: It was fun.
[00:57:09] Speaker B: It's. It's quite insightful to see what we've learned through our spiritual journey and its ups and downs.
[00:57:17] Speaker A: And I think collectively we have a lot of things in common, too, because obviously everything resonates.
Thank you so much for tuning in. Please share.
[00:57:28] Speaker B: Yes. And we will welcome you back next week.
[00:57:31] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:57:32] Speaker B: Bye.
[00:57:33] Speaker C: Bye.